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#327873 - 08/08/20 11:46 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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The president just sidestepped congress with a relief package that's going to appear populist and win him some of those up in the air independents.
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#327874 - 08/08/20 11:53 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Rachel Maddow notes an particularly specific warning from the director of the ODNI's National Counterintelligence and Security Center that "pro-Russia Ukrainian parliamentarian Andriy Derkach is spreading claims about corruption" as part of Russia's efforts to manipulate the 2020 U.S. election against Joe Biden and in support of Donald Trump. Derkach has not only been using Rudy Giuliani to spread his claims, but Republican senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley have also been receptive to the Russian tactic.


When told that the Russians were interfering with the election Trump said "I don't care."
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#327876 - 08/09/20 04:36 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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The president just sidestepped congress with a relief package that's going to appear populist and win him some of those up in the air independents.

Except only one was an actual EO and the other three were just mere memorandums. The actual EO will in effect begin to defund Social Security and Medicare. Wait until the oldz find out about that.

Also too, this "tax holiday" has a pay back date of next year when Biden will be president. Hmm
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#327877 - 08/09/20 07:11 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Defund Social Security & Medicare? And he promises to make those cuts permanent if reelected! Way to go, dummy! You just blew off your whole foot with that shotgun. A lot of retired folks voted for Trump in 2016. Not any more.

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#327878 - 08/09/20 05:33 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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All of us "olds" who should be offended assume that this will not effect OUR checks or OUR Medicare. Only those entitled Millenials who don't deserve it anyway will lose out when they retire. If they made the right decisions like we did they wouldn't need government handouts anyway!

I suspect this is neither legal nor possible for a president to do alone.

But to the politically illiterate the whole thing looks like the president is doing the working class a favor.
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#327884 - 08/09/20 07:02 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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The really strange thing is that the Democrats are not attacking Trump on this stuff. This is just the latest of a LOT of attacks on Medicare, Social Security, and the Post Office. I was going to list some of this stuff but I will do that in a posting of links.

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#327887 - 08/09/20 08:38 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Trump just did that yesterday. AARP will start mailing out letters soon, but they can't do it in one day. By election day, everybody dependent on Social Security and Medicare will know Trump has promised to cut them permanently.

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#327891 - 08/10/20 09:40 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Donnie Dumbass signed three pandemic-related memorandums and an executive order Saturday and referred to them twice as "bills." Somebody needs a "SchoolHouse Rock" refresher. smile

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#327898 - 08/10/20 10:11 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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No difference when you have a dicktatorship.

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#327906 - 08/11/20 12:30 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: jgw]
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The really strange thing is that the Democrats are not attacking Trump on this stuff.

Speaker Pelosi called it "absurdly unconstitutional". To me that's kind of an attack on Presidential powers by the highest Democrat in the land.

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“We’re disappointed that instead of putting in the work to solve Americans’ problems, the president instead chose to stay on his luxury golf course to announce unworkable, weak and narrow policy announcements to slash the unemployment benefits that millions desperately need and endanger seniors’ Social Security and Medicare,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a joint statement.

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