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#322550 - 03/07/20 04:15 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
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It took me a while to get over/accept why 53% of white women voted for a monster.


My mistake. Maybe that 53% bought in to his lies because then they could pretend he wasn't a monster, and they could continue their lifestyle uninterrupted. I was saddened because I thought women were a little more woke that that.
That's a mighty broad brush, PIA. I take it you jest.
Yes there are republican women. And most weirdly are women evangelicals. Go figure. For some reason the religious right, much of it anyway, has gone ape over this guy. I cannot speak to that.

Something about you blaming the whole thing on misguided ("unwoke") women bothers me. Women as a whole DID NOT vote for him.
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#322551 - 03/07/20 06:00 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Olyve is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#322552 - 03/07/20 06:02 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
One potential candidate has run up the flagpole the idea of a Republican running mate.

Mitt Romney has been floated.
John Kasich
Any never Trump Republican that is open to the possibilities of cutting S.S. And could be instrumental in getting that done.



On the other end I think you canít ignore the Stacy Abrams rumors.

Sanders has me stumped for a V. P. pick


Welp, I thought Bernie had a chance two weeks ago, but he and ol' Joe are neck and neck in Michigan - Bernie Country. Hmm
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#322553 - 03/07/20 06:06 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: olyve]
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Originally Posted By: olyve
... I had to remind myself (stupidly)that women live in a man's world still and sometimes choose to take what they can get however they get it...

On NPR this morning, there was poll showing that many women (40%) are misogynist and think in terms that women should only be in traditional roles. WTH?

Hmm

...and a lot of woman were still mad at Hillary in 2016 for 'standing by her man.' gobsmacked
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#322554 - 03/07/20 06:08 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Maybe one of them will throw her a bone and pick her as vice president!


Something like that would be the only way I'd vote for Biden. But Biden isn't really known for throwing bones to progressives. He may choose a person of color, he may choose a woman. Staci Abrams wouldn't be enough to sway me, neither would Kamala Harris. Those are a couple of the obvious answers Joe's team is pondering right now. Warren isn't on the short list, or even the long list.

Vote blue, no matter who. smile

Greger you live in FL, you have to vote. You can't sit this one out. nono
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#322556 - 03/07/20 01:15 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
One potential candidate has run up the flagpole the idea of a Republican running mate.

Mitt Romney has been floated.
John Kasich
Any never Trump Republican that is open to the possibilities of cutting S.S. And could be instrumental in getting that done.



On the other end I think you canít ignore the Stacy Abrams rumors.

Sanders has me stumped for a V. P. pick


Welp, I thought Bernie had a chance two weeks ago, but he and ol' Joe are neck and neck in Michigan - Bernie Country. Hmm


Michigan is interesting, Sanders had a 25-16 lead over Biden on 20 Feb.

https://news.wisc.edu/battleground-state-poll-1/

But as 3 Mar Biden had taken the lead 29-23 over Sanders.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/decision-...imary-election/

How much stock to put into them since they still include Buttigieg, Bloomberg, Warren, Klobuchar etc. is up to you.

Other 10 Mar polling, since 4 Mar to this AM, 7 Mar in Missouri Biden increased lead over Sanders from 12 to 20 points. But in my opinion the worst news for Sanders is on the west coast, the very progressive state of Washington where over the same time period 4-7 Mar, Biden has cut a 20 point Sanders lead down to 6. With no data on North Dakota, Idaho or Mississippi, the remainder of the 10 Mar Primaries, it looks like Sanders might just win one state, Washington. Even there, it looks like a very close thing.
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#322557 - 03/07/20 01:28 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race by the way. She doesnít seem to count as the goddess mother deems her a Russian agent. DNC rules committee allowed a billionaire to enter the debate stage in Nevada with no thresholds being met under the existing rules to do so.
Tulsi picks up a delegate and has the individual contributions requirement.
Democrats change the rules.
Funny thing about those rules and the people hollering about them.

I guess speaking out against the war industries and their servants gets you blacklisted in the Democratic Party. I think thatís the takeaway rule.



Edited by chunkstyle (03/07/20 01:30 PM)

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#322558 - 03/07/20 01:49 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race by the way. She doesnít seem to count as the goddess mother deems her a Russian agent.

Because she IS a Russian asset. She's just there to tell Vlad the DNC next moves.

Hmm
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#322559 - 03/07/20 02:29 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pdx rick]
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Based on what Rick?
Clintonite smearing?
Hard evidence?

If your being serious, please explain.
Iíd love to understanding the rational.

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#322560 - 03/07/20 04:09 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Based on what Rick?
Clintonite smearing?
Hard evidence?

If your being serious, please explain.
Iíd love to understanding the rational.

Her support of Russia and Syria. smile The fact that she's still in the race despite not having a snowball's chance in hell of becoming POTUS. Hmm
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