Current Topics
Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century?
by Hamish Howl
0 seconds ago
Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
by Hamish Howl
1 minute 9 seconds ago
What should we be doing to adapt to large scale crises?
by Hamish Howl
Today at 02:13 PM
First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020
by Hamish Howl
Today at 02:07 PM
Heard any good car jokes lately?
by Jeffery J. Haas
Today at 02:07 AM
Democrating Efforts
by Jeffery J. Haas
Yesterday at 10:55 PM
Bloomberg
by Jeffery J. Haas
Yesterday at 09:16 PM
living library
by Hamish Howl
Yesterday at 02:44 PM
ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020
by pondering_it_all
Yesterday at 09:34 AM
Above the law: DOJ lowering Stone sentencing
by Greger
02/23/20 08:24 PM
Why not?
by chunkstyle
02/23/20 03:55 PM
Bro or NOT Bro?
by Greger
02/20/20 07:26 PM
Growth, hunh, good god yaw, what is it good for?
by CPWILL
02/18/20 11:37 PM
Thorium Reactor
by jgw
02/18/20 07:05 PM
Ahhhhhhhh - the perfection of Capitalism
by jgw
02/16/20 09:43 PM
Prognostications on the demise of Herr Dicktater
by logtroll
02/15/20 04:10 PM
Iowa caucuses fail dismally.
by Greger
02/14/20 09:43 PM
Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate
by Greger
02/13/20 07:17 PM
The Departed - 2020
by Jeffery J. Haas
02/12/20 05:30 PM
Android support for CHB
by Jeffers
02/09/20 07:54 AM
Forum Stats
6289 Members
60 Forums
16821 Topics
295881 Posts

Max Online: 294 @ 12/06/17 12:57 AM
Google Adsense
Page 1 of 33 1 2 3 ... 32 33 >
Topic Options
#308031 - 08/21/18 08:46 PM Justice is coming
NW Ponderer Offline
Moderator
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 17265
Manafort convicted on 8 charges. Michael Cohen pleads guilty to multiple counts of fraud and tax evasion.
_________________________
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich

Top
#308032 - 08/21/18 08:51 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
NW Ponderer Offline
Moderator
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 17265
Cohen pleads to 8 counts, TWO INVOLVE TRUMP. Michael Cohen surrenders to the FBI - CNN.

Paul Manafort found guilty on eight counts - CNN.

Top
#308035 - 08/21/18 10:16 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
NW Ponderer Offline
Moderator
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 17265
Trump is officially an unindicted Coconspirator: Cohen allocution. For the non-legally educated, the allocution is the testimony under oath of a person pleading guilty proving their guilt to the charge. And, it includes back up documentation.

Top
#308036 - 08/21/18 10:16 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pondering_it_all Offline
veteran

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 9290
Loc: North San Diego County
When it rains, it pours! What is this, my birthday or something?

Top
#308038 - 08/21/18 11:06 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pondering_it_all]
NW Ponderer Offline
Moderator
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 17265
My wife just said, "well, that's two less Republican votes..."

Top
#308039 - 08/21/18 11:41 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pondering_it_all Offline
veteran

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 9290
Loc: North San Diego County
I hope Cohen gets to go to a nice federal prison. You know, with big screen TVs, internet access, free Astrolube, etc. His crimes didn't directly kill anybody, unlike Manafort who is partly responsible for lots of dead people in The Ukraine.

Top
#308047 - 08/22/18 01:09 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pondering_it_all]
Greger Offline


Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 11/24/06
Posts: 16260
Loc: Florida
Quote:
I hope Cohen gets to go to a nice federal prison.

For a man once described as "looking like a cigarette smells" it's odd that I'm kind of sympathetic to his case as well.

Maybe it was that statement about his family and doing the right thing. Maybe it's that he made it clear early on he was gonna sing like a canary....and he knows stuff about Trump. All those crappy jobs he did for Trump and all those times he got sent out for coffee might come back to bite Trump in the ass.

Manafort is gonna get pardoned. But he also has a couple more trials coming up and a lot more charges. I'm thinking Manafort is practice for when Mueller actually charges Trump. He'll find out which charges stick and which ones don't.
_________________________
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...

Top
#308050 - 08/22/18 01:43 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pondering_it_all Offline
veteran

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 9290
Loc: North San Diego County
Lots of Manafort's crimes have similar state crimes. Evading federal taxes makes it unlikely you filled in your state taxes correctly, but these are different crimes. State prosecution is in the works if he is pardoned. And since accepting a pardon means admitting you are guilty, the state case is a slam-dunk.

Top
#308052 - 08/22/18 02:10 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
Ujest Shurly Offline
journeyman

Registered: 10/16/16
Posts: 546
Loc: Sterling Heights, MI, USA
The only down side, Mike Pence and Paul Ryan are waiting in the wings cry eek
_________________________
Vote 2020!

Life is like a PB&J sandwich. The older you get, the moldery and crustier you get.

Now, get off my grass!

Top
#308063 - 08/22/18 04:51 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pondering_it_all Offline
veteran

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 9290
Loc: North San Diego County
Depends on how fast the wheels of justice turn. If they both get booted after January, the Speaker will probably be a Democrat. If I was a Congressional Republican leader, I would convince Pence to resign now and get somebody who won't be impeached in the VP office, like Romney. Then at least they keep the Presidency until 2020.

That's what they did with Spiro Agnew and Nixon.

Top
Page 1 of 33 1 2 3 ... 32 33 >

Who's Online
1 registered (Hamish Howl), 53 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
RoughDraft274, CPWILL, Kevin Kohler, Keridan, Chagos
6289 Registered Users
A2