Current Topics
the Trump Taxes
by Greger
Today at 12:10 AM
RoundTable for Summer 2020
by Greger
Today at 12:02 AM
Do both sides really do it?
by Greger
Yesterday at 11:49 PM
Civics
by jgw
Yesterday at 05:33 PM
Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
by pondering_it_all
Yesterday at 09:28 AM
Portland. A Turning Point?
by pondering_it_all
Yesterday at 02:33 AM
Honesty, morality, and integrity
by logtroll
Yesterday at 12:22 AM
Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Died
by pdx rick
Yesterday at 12:22 AM
The Armagedon Decision.
by Greger
09/27/20 09:05 PM
How much do police really cost?
by jgw
09/27/20 05:00 PM
The Trump campaign is broke
by pdx rick
09/26/20 09:00 PM
Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century?
by pondering_it_all
09/26/20 07:41 PM
The Boogaloo Bois
by pondering_it_all
09/26/20 05:38 AM
Bloomberg raises $16M to pay fines of 32K former felons so they can vote
by pdx rick
09/24/20 09:42 PM
The Republican Platform
by pondering_it_all
09/22/20 09:22 PM
Global warming predictions
by pondering_it_all
09/20/20 09:04 PM
Half of troops have an unfavorable opinion of President Bone Spurs
by CPWILL
09/20/20 07:42 AM
West Coast Burning
by NW Ponderer
09/19/20 06:57 PM
Bob Woodward's book details Trump's chaotic and dysfunctional White House
by Greger
09/19/20 06:57 PM
How the world sees U.S. and Trump
by jgw
09/16/20 09:01 PM
Forum Stats
6292 Members
60 Forums
17001 Topics
303085 Posts

Max Online: 294 @ 12/06/17 12:57 AM
Google Adsense
Page 22 of 33 < 1 2 ... 20 21 22 23 24 ... 32 33 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#310226 - 01/06/19 02:17 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: rporter314]
pdx rick Offline
Member
CHB-OG

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 43336
Loc: Puget Sound, WA
Originally Posted By: rporter314
What would move his base to support impeachment proceedings? After listening to some Trump supporters yesterday, I would say they would follow him all the way to hell.

Trump's base has a seething resentment of the United States government for foisting Affirmative Action on them, for foisting gay marriage on them, for insuring that poor minorities have enough food to eat - and making Trump's supporters pay for it, for putting other religions on par, or above, their own beloved Christianity. Hmm

...but they'll never be honest enough to admit it. If you read their comments on public forums - it's all there if you put it all tougher. shocked

Trump's base also recongizes that Russia - at least the Northern western part, is all white - a fact that doesn't escape them. Hmm
_________________________
Contrarian, extraordinaire



Top
#310227 - 01/06/19 03:50 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pdx rick]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 15728
Loc: Whittier, California
Originally Posted By: rporter314
What would move his base to support impeachment proceedings?


All I know is, it is now "even money" according to popular oddsmakers.

DONALD TRUMP IS EVEN MONEY TO BE IMPEACHED (PSST, DONALD - THAT’S BAD NEWS)

Quote:
"Donald Trump’s odds to be impeached by the House of Representatives are EVEN – the highest they’ve ever been. The latest betting odds released by BetOnline have Trump’s odds of being impeached by the House at +100."



WILL DONALD TRUMP BE IMPEACHED BY THE HOUSE?
Odds
Yes +100
No -140

WILL DONALD TRUMP LAST HIS FULL FIRST TERM?
Odds
Yes -300
No +200

WILL DONALD TRUMP LEAVE OFFICE VIA IMPEACHMENT?
Odds
Yes +600
No -1500

WILL DONALD TRUMP RESIGN THE PRESIDENCY IN HIS FIRST TERM?
Odds
Yes +350
No -600
_________________________
"The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals" DVD
deepfreezefilms.com

Top
#310230 - 01/06/19 04:54 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
rporter314 Offline
veteran

Registered: 03/18/03
Posts: 7281
Loc: Highlands, Tx
OK, I believe you have missed the point. You have pointed out the obvious stats on the House filing charges. No problem, I suspect the odds given are probably close to right.

Here is the problem. Senate Republicans are not supporting a conviction. The putative reason is the BASE support and will continue to support Mr Trump and if any of them turn on Mr Trump the BASE will primary them with a more extreme (if you can grasp that) candidate who has pledged fealty to Mr Trump. So as long as the BASE (maybe we can start calling them Trump's al Qaeda) supports Mr Trump, Senate Republicans will not vote to convict.

Thus, if the BASE were to reduce their support for Mr Trump, it would allow some Senate Republicans the opportunity to vote for conviction and not be primaried. So what would change the BASES support?

Rick pointed out some of the many reasons the BASE continues support for Mr Trump i.e. basically they hate everything about the OTHER. None of that will change. (See comment on shooting in Times Square). Mr Trump will continue to cater to his BASE. There are too many reasons these folks will not reduce the level of their support for Mr Trump, which means Senate Republicans will not abandon Mr Trump.

Despite the probability the House will file charges, it will become a meaningless political gesture, unless Trump's BASE abandons him, and the probability of that happening are ... nil ... zero ... nada ...etc

I suspect the only redress to lift the yoke of the pall which has covered America, is to electorally remove Mr Trump from office.
_________________________
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
Get off the crazy train!!! ... dump Trump

Top
#310231 - 01/06/19 05:53 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pdx rick Offline
Member
CHB-OG

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 43336
Loc: Puget Sound, WA



_________________________
Contrarian, extraordinaire



Top
#310256 - 01/08/19 09:07 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pdx rick]
NW Ponderer Offline
Moderator
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 17430

Top
#310260 - 01/08/19 09:32 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pdx rick]
Ken Condon Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 06/14/07
Posts: 3887
Loc: Eugene, OR
Want me wunna them hats rick.
_________________________
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Top
#310266 - 01/09/19 04:59 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pdx rick Offline
Member
CHB-OG

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 43336
Loc: Puget Sound, WA

Trump Tower is the symbol of money-laundering. Hmm
_________________________
Contrarian, extraordinaire



Top
#310267 - 01/09/19 04:59 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: Ken Condon]
pdx rick Offline
Member
CHB-OG

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 43336
Loc: Puget Sound, WA
Originally Posted By: Ken Condon
Want me wunna them hats rick.

smile
_________________________
Contrarian, extraordinaire



Top
#310360 - 01/14/19 08:15 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pondering_it_all Offline
veteran

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 10381
Loc: North San Diego County
Interesting little article about how the system failed:

Trump Was Never Vetted

Quote:
A recent Patrick Radden Keefe profile of Mark Burnett reveals how the reality television producer turned Trump into a commanding business tycoon. “We walked through the offices and saw chipped furniture,” one Apprentice producer recalls in the piece. “We saw a crumbling empire at every turn. Our job was to make it seem otherwise.”

The Apprentice depicted Trump not as a bankrupt crook but as a wealthy genius, for whose favor a cast of supplicants would compete. The show revolved around competing business ideas that Trump would oversee. The problem was that Trump — just as he does in the White House — made irrational and bizarre choices. He “was frequently unprepared for these sessions, with little grasp of who had performed well. Sometimes a candidate distinguished herself during the contest only to get fired, on a whim, by Trump.” Keefe reports that in such instances, the producers would edit the footage to make Trump’s foolish decisions appear wise. Tens of millions of Americans voted for a television character they took to be some reasonable approximation of a real person.

Top
#310367 - 01/14/19 07:12 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
pondering_it_all Offline
veteran

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 10381
Loc: North San Diego County
Pretty good article about the very bad effects of ignoring past administration's crimes:

Prosecute Trump to the Full Extent of the Law

Quote:
There is a reason that “Equal Justice Under Law” is carved into the physical architecture of the Supreme Court above its primary west entrance. Far, far too often, America has not been a society where we are all actually subject to law equally. And yet the notion that politicians and billionaires are supposed to be the same under the law as the poor and the oppressed is a powerful principle. This aspiration is necessary for the development of a sense of community and has served as a powerful impetus for America becoming generally less unfair over time.


Nixon's pardons, Reagan's pardons, and Bush (Senior and Junior) pardons all lead directly to Trump: Somebody who actually campaigned on being a criminal, because crime has no consequences for the rich and powerful. If we want to break that deadly cycle we have to stop ignoring crimes.

Top
Page 22 of 33 < 1 2 ... 20 21 22 23 24 ... 32 33 >

Who's Online
1 registered (1 invisible), 36 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Superfly, GreatNewsTonight, danarhea, RoughDraft274, CPWILL
6292 Registered Users
A2