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#312724 - 06/29/19 10:14 PM Re: The Debate: Is Americaís future capitalist or socialist? [Re: logtroll]
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Here's an interesting new approach to venture capital, one that applied to in 2016 but was rejected because the company "wasn't developed enough". I am about to apply again...

I applied again... we are setting up a time for an "introductory call". ThumbsUp

Here is an interview with Phil Graves, CEO of Tin Shed Ventures (formerly $20 Million and Change). Long but very interesting.

https://youtu.be/5sgMt4llfao
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#312783 - 07/06/19 02:03 PM Re: The Debate: Is Americaís future capitalist or socialist? [Re: logtroll]
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A very interesting article on the relationship between soil carbon, soil biology, CO2 drawdown, and water vapor.

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CO2 drawdown is essential because we need to rebuild organic matter in soils in order to have the soil carbon sponge that supports the water cycle. But the only way we can safely and naturally cool the planet and prevent the climate catastrophe is by restoring these hydrological processes. Weíve been advocating, talking and educating about that for 10 years. In all of those years, not one person has ever said no, thatís wrong. They all say yes, thatís climatology 101. But in a sense it is new, because weíve been focused on reducing CO2 emissions for so long. Of course, we have to do that, but really the solution lies in restoring these hydrological cooling balances by one percent.

The Soil Carbon Sponge
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#313896 - 08/16/19 12:56 PM Re: The Debate: Is Americaís future capitalist or socialist? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Externalization - how is it accounted for in the Capitalism ideology?

I was hoping that our Senator Hatrack would provide a more informed explanation, as a practicing Classical Liberal, than I can do with the more superficial knowledge that I possess. As an admittedly oversimplified summary, I understand the Classical Liberal economic model to say that unregulated free markets will provide the best outcomes because self-interest will always prevail - eventually - so negative trends, such as social and environmental decline, will be naturally mitigated. This might be possible if the self-interest was enlightened, but my speculation is that it is seldom so. We might say that a weakness of the CL economic model is that it externalizes the fact that enlightened self-interest among the human animal is as rare as henís teeth (notwithstanding a potentially lucrative market for chicken molars...).

Some examples of externalization might be interesting. This is following two posts above; one representing a triple-bottom-line business model (people, planet, profit), the other addressing global warming.

The Patagonia link is all about a company that is trying to acknowledge and act on a triple-bottom-line model - they would like to stop externalizing the costs of doing business. Patagonia may be as good a model for the CL economic philosophy as can be found, but they admit that enlightened self-interest is not an easy row to hoe.

The other post, which concerns global warming, is a rich vein to mine for examples of the failures of free market Capitalism to achieve the best outcomes, but I want to provide just one very interesting case of externalization - climate change denying. The Deniers are responding to just one thing. They do not want to have to account for the effects of climate change as a part of doing business, because they think that doing so will make things cost more. Their self-interest is unenlightened and they very much desire to continue to externalize the burgeoning social and environmental costs, not to mention the unavoidable economic costs.

To tie this back to another thread on Conservatism, I donít see externalization as a conservative quality. Odd, isnít it, that Conservatives are the primary proponents of not being conservative?

I call this the Conservative Rule of the Opposite Thang, with the acronym ConROT. Special emphasis on the ďConĒ.

Senator Hatrack may have a persuasive contrary opinion...
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#313959 - 25 minutes 14 seconds ago Re: The Debate: Is Americaís future capitalist or socialist? [Re: logtroll]
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A challenge for you.

Capitalist or Socialist voters... by age. Nowhere can I find this analysis... based purely on age of the actual voter.

The reason I ask, is that I live in a CCRC along with about 350 others. The area is mostly farming oriented, Catholic, and older than the average Illinois average... 47 vs. 38.

The area is predominantly Republican. In my case (CCRC), almost all Republican... but with an average age of 83 or 84, and even though they vote... almost none of them have any idea of what is going on in politics... nationally or locally. Strongly Republican, but from habit, many years ago. Those who do watch any news, (very few), are solely attached to Fox.

As much as we are generally convinced that youth is liberally inclined, the question I have, is how many people, of what age bracket are more inclined to vote for a certain party? Turn that young liberal bias around and ask how many persons of a later age group would also be liberal.

So... looking for a chart that incorporates age and party preference. Am sure we all have assumptions, but seeing real numbers could make the the future predictions more visible.
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