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#310325 - 01/12/19 03:10 PM GoFundMe Wall campaign collapses: fraud campaign substituted
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GoFundMe is refunding all donations made to the 'Fund the Wall' campaign (Business Insider). Surprising exactly no one, the overtly racist GoFundMe campaign to build Trump's Wall collapsed spectacularly, only $991 million shy of its goal. Instead, the fraudsters behind it have created a less-well-regulated "non-profit" (ss 503(c)(4)) to fleece donors instead. Lest anyone doubt my characterization of the new entity, I offer the following: 1) In announcing the new organization, Kolfage, who instigated the campaign, said "donors could redirect their donations to a new "501(c)(4) non-profit Florida Corporation named 'We Build the Wall, Inc.'" if they still wished for their money to be used, in one way or another, to build a wall."; ss 503(c)(4) is used by lobbying organizations, not charities; and its "trustees" include - Erik Prince, David Clarke, the former Wisconsin sheriff known for expressing controversial views on immigration, and Mary Ann Mendoza, a proponent of stricter immigration laws.
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#310330 - 01/12/19 05:02 PM Re: GoFundMe Wall campaign collapses: fraud campaign substituted [Re: NW Ponderer]
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hmmm ... reading this I started to think ... yikes.

Is it even legal for anyone, including legal entities, in the private sector to build anything which is legally the purview of the federal government? As examples, how would this 503 access private land, much less apply eminent domain without federal authority? Even if they donated the money to the federal government, the money still has to be appropriated in Congress. and it goes on from there.
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#310332 - 01/12/19 05:58 PM Re: GoFundMe Wall campaign collapses: fraud campaign substituted [Re: rporter314]
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That was the problem with the campaign from the start. There's a law called "the anti-deficiency act" which prohibits, in most circumstances, "supplementing" appropriated funds with private donations. The exceptions are few, and major construction activity is not among them (examples of exceptions are usually limited to donations to military museums and such). What I think is significant is that the 503(c)(4) is not promising to build a wall. They want to collect the money from suckers donors to be used "in one way or another," to build a wall. What that really means is, pay themselves to lobby for a wall.

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#310335 - 01/12/19 06:35 PM Re: GoFundMe Wall campaign collapses: fraud campaign substituted [Re: NW Ponderer]
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#310336 - 01/12/19 07:20 PM Re: GoFundMe Wall campaign collapses: fraud campaign substituted [Re: NW Ponderer]
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But I think that is really fine: Morons get to think they are supporting The Wall, and a wall doesn't get built. Everybody wins, as far as I can see. As long as the fund organizers spend the money on a lavish lifestyle, and don't do anything effective with it. How about yachts all around? Everybody loves a good yacht.

Here's an intriguing idea: Arrest and jail any Republican leader who is competent to do real evil and leave nothing but hucksters who fleece the rubes but never manage to get elected. That keeps Trump's base occupied and spending their money on things that don't hurt the US. This is basically the plot of an old science fiction story, Search the Sky by Frederick Pohl and Cyril M. Kornbluth. Space explorers visit a future Earth where most people are harmless idiots, and the real leaders are disguised as bathroom attendants. The give all the idiots great big shiny cars that emit showers of sparks (with a top speed of 20 MPH), for example.

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