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#308065 - 08/22/18 05:49 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pondering_it_all]
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#308069 - 08/22/18 04:48 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Thanks NWP.

The original must have been miss-handled during copy, It is unreadable (double vision like and blurry)both the webpage and the PDF.
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#308071 - 08/22/18 06:25 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Unfortunately, and further based on initial Republican responses, we have just seen Mr Trump shoot and wound someone in Times Square, and all any Republican would say is, he didn't kill the person.

Folks, do not delude yourself into thinking impeachment charges are being filed in the House as I type.

The prevailing argument has been Republicans will stand by their man until he costs Republicans the House. I now reject that argument as based on fallacious premises. More important than simply losing House seats is confronting Trump's base, which is if no one has noticed, the Republican base. The base operates out of ignorance and in the dark holes of bigotry. Think about this .... if Republicans bolt now, they will face the anger and certain blowback of the base.

Republicans have denied who their base is for too many years and now it has been exposed for what it really is.

I believe it is highly doubtful Republican "leadership" will do anything to protect SP Mueller. I predict Mr Trump will "fire" SP Mueller rather than face the increasing reality of getting the facts and truth in the light of day. And when he does, I predict Republicans will do nothing.
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#308074 - 08/22/18 07:02 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The Republicans are a complete waste of time and cannot be expected to act in any way other in their own interest. Hopefully the Dems will take over but I have serious questions about that one too. Right now they seem to already claiming victory. I kinda remember the last time they did that.

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#308078 - 08/22/18 10:12 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: jgw]
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Originally Posted By: jgw
The Republicans are a complete waste of time and cannot be expected to act in any way other in their own interest. Hopefully the Dems will take over but I have serious questions about that one too. Right now they seem to already claiming victory. I kinda remember the last time they did that.


Ayup... Hmm

Maybe this time will be different?
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#308081 - 08/23/18 12:28 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: Greger]
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The Trump syndicate is claiming that Cohen confessed to something that wasn't a crime, then Trump admitted to committing a crime on Fox News. Note: if the Trump organization repaid Cohen, that is a separate crime. Trump doesn't make that distinction, when he says "I paid it". He didn't, the Trump organization did.

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#308084 - 08/23/18 02:10 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
He didn't, the Trump organization did.

The IRS might want to check to see if it was written off as a business expense.
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#308089 - 08/23/18 06:47 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trump's royal "we". He makes no distinction between what he pays, what the Trump organization pays, and what his campaign pays. He would be a terrible CEO of a public company. Not only would he be fired quickly, he would also be in big trouble with the FTC and SEC. (Much like Duncan Hunter's accounting ideas!)

As president, he keeps on blundering into stuff because he has no idea what the rules are and no interest in finding out. Strong-man dictator is easier. Being a functional US President is way, way beyond his level of incompetence.

Given an interview I watched today, he seems to think it's okay that whoever paid the hush money as long as the campaign didn't. He has no clue and can't seem to understand that the crime is GIVING an illegal contribution to the campaign, not taking it from the campaign. As a matter of fact, the campaign paying hush money would probably be legal, but it would have to report it rather defeating the purpose.

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#308090 - 08/23/18 12:48 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Manafort jury hung by one juror. And that's reported by Fox Noose. 11 "guilty"s and one holdout. That's got to make Trump feel good.

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#308091 - 08/23/18 12:53 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all

Given an interview I watched today, he seems to think it's okay that whoever paid the hush money as long as the campaign didn't. He has no clue and can't seem to understand that the crime is GIVING an illegal contribution to the campaign, not taking it from the campaign. As a matter of fact, the campaign paying hush money would probably be legal, but it would have to report it rather defeating the purpose.
I suppose they could report it as "morale services" or "illegal expenses".

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