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#310524 - 01/23/19 03:02 PM The Fox News/Russia connection
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A mystery has been solved. One of the questions that has vexed investigators is how Donald Trump has been receiving his instructions from his Russian handlers. Now, some have speculated that Vladimir Putin has been directly handling Donald Trump as his asset during private one-on-one meetings, which undoubtedly has merit, but how does he receive his instructions between these sessions?

It turns out that there are a set of signals that have been worked out with other agents, and it takes place out in the open. Whenever Comrade Trump wavers or is at a loss as to what action to take, he is provided instructions through his other handlers at Fox News (and certain other "conservative" outlets). The conservative label is the cover, and it has worked beautifully.

Consider this: prior to the advent of Trump, conservatives have been adamantly anti-Russian. Many (who are not part of this conspiracy) still are. But there are a core of particular players who have tilted the playing field to favor Russia. Is it coincidence that Sean Hannity and Donald Trump use the same lawyers? (the Atlantic: Sean Hannity’s Ties to Two More Trump-Connected Lawyers, Apr 17, 2018) I think not. Why does the president seek advice from particular pundits? Why has Hannity started showing up at Trump events (because Vladimir is nervous his useful idiot might stray?).

Like Maria Butina, Russian influence operations have been infiltrating another element of the conservative landscape. This time, however, it is conservative "influencers". They all have humongous weaknesses that can be exploited. Drug addiction, debt, affairs - the conservative pundit class is full of useful idiots. These cells have recently been activated to create as much disruption as possible. How else to explain Ann coulter, Jay Sekulow, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson suddenly singing the same pro-Putin tune? Their desperation to prevent Democrats exploring these linkages led directly to the shutdown. Mitch McConnell might also be compromised.

Conservatives and former communists have long been fellow travelers. The parallels are staggering. It has just never been so out in the open before. Study: Sean Hannity spent one year laying groundwork for authoritarian response to Russia probe (Salon). Is it, perhaps, because their goals have been met? Now is the time to strike! Team Trump has Blown Its Cover (the Observer). Now they can take over the government, disrupt all our security operations, and bring the nation to its knees. Putin's puppets have been operating in plain sight, and we just didn't realize it - until now!
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#310526 - 01/23/19 04:14 PM Re: The Fox News/Russia connection [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Oops, I missed this one: Fox News’ Kremlin Ties Go Much Deeper Than Just Sean Hannity (Observer, opinion).

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#310527 - 01/23/19 04:15 PM Re: The Fox News/Russia connection [Re: NW Ponderer]
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You have been drinking from the Conservatives Cup of Irrational Argumentation.

Here is how it works. The fundamental premise is to start with a conclusion one wants to promote, find a fact, argue it implies the pre-selected conclusion.

A more likely scenario is based on the reality of Mr Trump himself.

There is a large body of evidence Mr Trump has been compromised in some way by the Russians. So let's provide some context. The Russian assault on western styled democracies is a multi-pronged and country sensitive. The American attack probably has a variety of benchmark objectives, all aimed at bringing down American power and influence globally and in particular to Russia's primary interests geo-politicly.

So Mr Trump is but a small, but important part, of the whole. Mr Trump has a large charismatic effect on a certain portion of the American electorate, which is also serviced by the very pundits listed, namely, Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity. Dobbs Pirro, and et al. Once their audience became mesmerized by Mr Trump, they had no choice but to swallow the whole enchilada, which includes the bizarre and irrational, like Axios, porn stars, sexual assault charges, Russian collusion, money laundering, etc. Notice in every case these people, including evangelicals, have come to the defense of Mr Trump.

It stands to reason anyone attacking Mr Trump for either style or substance, must be attacked by these pundits. Their only defense is to refute the charges as false and counter with a deflective charge of some kind. Benghazi has nothing to do with Russians, so they honed in on Uranium One.

I think the reader can see where this is leading.

Mr Trump is the fulfillment of right wing nuttery prophesy, someone who will bring liberals down, and promote conservatism. This is stand alone. It does not require Russia influence. This is what conservative nuts have wanted for 30 years. Because it fits well with Russian objectives does not imply the Russians are behind it. Mr Trump is their guy and all the rest is an unintended bonus.
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#310528 - 01/23/19 04:26 PM Re: The Fox News/Russia connection [Re: NW Ponderer]
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see my earlier response

In particular, this is an example of how desperate these conservative Trump supporter/pundits are. They are not very bright and rely on "smart" people to come up with ideas for them to steal and air. So they grab Russian stories and run with it. Does it matter where the story came from? Not in the least, as long as it is a deflection. Does it matter if it is true or valid? Again, not in the least. Notice these same people use fictional concoctions from people like Stone, Corsi, Fitton, etc. These characters don't care if the stories come from Russians or Venusians, as long as it deflects from their guy.
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#310529 - 01/23/19 04:31 PM Re: The Fox News/Russia connection [Re: NW Ponderer]
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O and I guess as an afterthought if I argue these clowns are not Russian assets, is that an attempt to re-direct the spotlight away from the Russian assets, which would then make me a willing dupe of the Russian Destruction of Western Democracy Plan (and some thought Khrushchev was a threat).

Am I being paranoid? or is this how Sen McCarthy did it?
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#310531 - 01/23/19 05:01 PM Re: The Fox News/Russia connection [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Thanks, rpPi, for adding some sanity to my conspiracy fever dream. Sadly, I truly think we are both right, to an extent.

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#310545 - 01/24/19 03:32 AM Re: The Fox News/Russia connection [Re: NW Ponderer]
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"Defend Trump" is the order of the day, of the hour, of the year, of the ages and it was never intended to be anything but universal. Democracy is a threat to authoritarians and like it or not, we will witness the Trump mushroom getting its money shot.
In the end, the fact that the Russians invested heavily and bet the farm on sowing strife doesn't really matter anymore.
That depth charge went off and compromised the hull of the ship but at this point, it pales in comparison to the Trumpistas who are applying thermite grade propaganda to the sealed compartments to ensure sinkage.
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