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#310689 - 02/01/19 04:10 PM Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat
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This is not hyperbole. Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat (Slate). Roe could effectively be overturned on Monday. This is a direct result of conservative gerrymandering of the judiciary. It could, in fact, be the beginning of the end of civil rights in the United States. Again, that is not an exaggeration.
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#310690 - 02/01/19 04:41 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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When you give in to fascist rule you often give up certain freedoms and liberties. Those who chose this fascist regime are cheering wildly at the thought of overturning Roe vs Wade.
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#310699 - 02/02/19 05:04 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Greger]
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Supreme Court temporarily halts Louisiana abortion law (politico). No reason to celebrate, yet.

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#310713 - 02/02/19 05:21 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Quote:
No reason to celebrate, yet.


So who's celebrating? It was a minor skirmish in a long war.
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#310817 - 02/08/19 04:44 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Greger]
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In a move that surprises exactly no one Brett Kavanaugh Just Declared War on Roe v. Wade (Slate). It is good that the full court did not take the 5th Circuit's challenge to its authority lightly, and kept the stay in place, but given Chief Justice Roberts' previous dissent in Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt (link, PDF), it may just be a year before Roe is overturned, or at last effectively so.

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#310819 - 02/08/19 06:22 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Don't conservatives start with God as their source for legal opinions? The Constitution is always a distant second for these folks. Imagine how they would fell if there was a large Muslim footprint in political power and their inspiration was the Quran.

I am partial to public beheadings. Who knows maybe it would catch on with the Christian fundamentalists.
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#310826 - 02/09/19 01:56 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Is that "by" or "of"?
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#310828 - 02/09/19 02:04 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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levity is a necessity in times like these

ill let you choose ... but choose wisely
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#312165 - 05/08/19 06:31 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Georgia did it: They signed into law a bill that says any fetus with a heartbeat (about 6 weeks) is a citizen of the state with all rights of every other citizen.

Georgia Just Criminalized Abortion

Women who get abortions will be charged with murder. Men who pay for abortions will be charged with murder for hire. People who help a woman go to another state for an abortion will be charged with accessory to murder. All natural miscarriages will result in murder investigations to see if the woman did something to promote the miscarriage.

On the lighter side, all pregnant prisoners will have to be released from jail. It's illegal to keep a citizen in jail when they have not been charged with a crime, so those fetuses have to be freed. It may be illegal to have sex with a pregnant woman, because of close proximity to the fetus!

It will be interesting to see how many woman decide it's too risky to stay in Georgia, since even if they were not sexually active they could still be raped. It will also be interesting to see how many businesses decide to leave. Georgia is about to become a lot poorer because of Republican overreach.

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#312168 - 05/08/19 04:17 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: pondering_it_all]
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But at the same time Georgia will become richer in unwanted children.
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