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#310377 - 01/15/19 04:41 PM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Heh, man. ...
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Chocolate cookies with a chocolate covered cherry "baked" on top.
Ha! baked. Yeah, man, like I dig it. Chocolate to.. um, uhh... sheet, I forgot what I was saying, ya know?

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#310393 - 01/16/19 01:20 AM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Okay, less weed, more chocolate.

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#310395 - 01/16/19 03:41 AM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: Greger]
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#310409 - 01/17/19 01:20 PM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: Greger]
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#310413 - 01/17/19 04:22 PM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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That article makes two cogent, concise arguments and is well worth reading.
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The electorate passes judgment on its presidents and their shortcomings every four years. But the Framers were concerned that a president could abuse his authority in ways that would undermine the democratic process and that could not wait to be addressed. So they created a mechanism for considering whether a president is subverting the rule of law or pursuing his own self-interest at the expense of the general welfare—in short, whether his continued tenure in office poses a threat to the republic. This mechanism is impeachment.
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The question of whether impeachment is justified should not be confused with the question of whether it is likely to succeed in removing a president from office. The country will benefit greatly regardless of how the Senate ultimately votes. Even if the impeachment of Donald Trump fails to produce a conviction in the Senate, it can safeguard the constitutional order from a president who seeks to undermine it.
The importance is the process, not the result.

I admit, I had not approached the question this way, and thought of impeachment as a forlorn goal. But, it's not even whether the House votes articles of impeachment, but rather, the public investigative process that restores the constitutional balance. Many pundits have discussed the importance of "oversight", but I hadn't really appreciated what the specific process of an impeachment inquiry would bear on the subject. It is all about Congress doing its job. The Mueller investigation can continue separately, and should, but Congress has a responsibility to separately consider the question.

This article has changed my mind on the subject. I now think a Select Committee is in order.

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#310428 - 01/18/19 02:30 AM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: Greger]
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One advantage of impeachment is it could get Trump sitting in a court (of sorts) answering questions under oath. I don't think he is capable of testifying without perjuring himself every few minutes. I think it would reveal a man with pretty advanced organic brain degeneration too.

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#310438 - 01/18/19 03:28 PM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I've also noticed that his coiffure is suffering. His comb-over-around-and-tuck is thinning fast and getting sloppy. I was distracted at his last TV appearance by the halo of stray hairs. It reminded me of Bernie Sanders. Its one thing when that happens in the wind (As pictured), another in the oval office.

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#310440 - 01/18/19 04:17 PM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Mike Pence calls criticism of wife's job at anti-LGBTQ school 'deeply offensive' (NBC). Mr. Pence, you are deeply offensive to all decent, moral, patriotic Americans, especially those that are truly Christian. What a sick, sick man.

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#310457 - 01/19/19 05:33 AM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Mike Pence calls criticism of wife's job at anti-LGBTQ school 'deeply offensive' (NBC). Mr. Pence, you are deeply offensive to all decent, moral, patriotic Americans, especially those that are truly Christian. What a sick, sick man.


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#310462 - 01/20/19 02:08 PM Re: RoundTable for January 2019 [Re: Greger]
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How I love trolling the dumbfück rubes over at Breitbart.
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Trump needs to negotiate with Mexico to pay for the wall like he campaigned on. Trump said he is the best Deal Maker ever. Proof is in the pudding as they say.


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I've read that the deficit has increased every year when the Republicans were in control form 2011-2017? Hows is that possible?


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Why didn't Donald negotiate the funding for the wall while the Republicans had control of Congress?

He procrastinated and now we have to deal with this shutdown where Border Patrol is not being paid. This is ridiculous.


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Border Patrol is not being paid and haven't been for the past 30 days. They have families and mortgages, food to buy. What is Donald Trump's point in doing this to them?


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Not paying those who are protecting our southern border for almost 30 days now is not a smart idea.


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Donald said Mexico will pay for the wall - not the American tax payer. At least the Dems know that the American tax payer should not pay for the wall that Trump PROMISED Mexico would pay for.


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Having Mexico pay was very appealing to many of his base. Isn't that why he won the election?


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