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#310604 - 01/27/19 06:19 PM
Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
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Pooh-Bah
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He voted for Trump. That's really all I need to dismiss him as a principled candidate or a man that can be trusted to hold office.
It appears a bit of a hubbub is taking place around the Starbucks executive planning to run as an Independent. He aint got nuthin' the Democrats aint got and is likely to be ignored by voters.
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#310616 - 01/28/19 04:25 PM
Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
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Pooh-Bah
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Nate Silver had this to say about Schultz... it’s unbelievably arrogant for Howard Schultz to think that ‘Howard Schultz, as an independent, on a platform of deficit reduction, for president’ is the answer to any question that anybody has ever asked about anything,” He's also against healthcare reform... This might be one of those Neoliberals I've heard about.
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#310645 - 01/30/19 04:50 PM
Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
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It appears to me that Shultz feels that Billionaires are under-represented in the Democratic Party. "When I hear people espousing free government-paid college, free government-paid health care, and a free government job for everyone -- on top of a $21 trillion debt -- the question is, how are we paying for all this and not bankrupting the country?" How, Howard? By taxing rich motherf*ckers like you, that's how. No wonder he wants Democrats to lose...
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#310666 - 01/31/19 04:40 AM
Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
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Pooh-Bah
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Nate Silver had this to say about Schultz... it’s unbelievably arrogant for Howard Schultz to think that ‘Howard Schultz, as an independent, on a platform of deficit reduction, for president’ is the answer to any question that anybody has ever asked about anything,” He's also against healthcare reform... This might be one of those Neoliberals I've heard about. Apparently not, because as we've all been told in the most shrill tones imaginable, any and all Democrats are all neoliberals, merely by virtue of their membership in the party, thus it is wrong and immoral to vote for any Democrat whatsoever. [/sarcasm] 
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#310682 - 02/01/19 03:49 AM
Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
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Is it too soon to be talking 2020? It's never too early to discuss getting rid of Fatass.
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#310683 - 02/01/19 02:22 PM
Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
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Nate Silver had this to say about Schultz... it’s unbelievably arrogant for Howard Schultz to think that ‘Howard Schultz, as an independent, on a platform of deficit reduction, for president’ is the answer to any question that anybody has ever asked about anything,” He's also against healthcare reform... This might be one of those Neoliberals I've heard about. Apparently not, because as we've all been told in the most shrill tones imaginable, any and all Democrats are all neoliberals, merely by virtue of their membership in the party, thus it is wrong and immoral to vote for any Democrat whatsoever. [/sarcasm] Hmmmm.... Feels like your referring to my posting Jeff. If so, your spinning my criticism of the Democratic Party. We've had neoliberal democratic presidents since Clinton. You may have trudged into a booth and thrown the lever for another back in 2016. To say that theres not a predominantly neoliberal concensus in the Democratic Party is like republicans saying there the Party of Lincoln. It's really not a subtle concept to grasp. Theirs a range of democrats but the majority and the party organization is predominately neoliberal. Sorry if that sounds shrill to your ears. Defending my posting, not trying to change your I'll shut up now.
Edited by chunkstyle (02/01/19 02:28 PM)
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#310684 - 02/01/19 02:22 PM
Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
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I almost never cite to National Review, but here's a piece that bears reading: The Sham of American ‘Centrism’. It points out that the "centrism" espoused by Schultz and other "Independents" is really a very minority view. It also explains how Trump got to the White House, and where Dems won in 2018. It could be the formula for 2020. BTW, Corey Booker announced.
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