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#311035 - 02/19/19 04:45 AM Re: The NYC/Amazon Deal [Re: jgw]
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Those jobs weren't for the Long Island City residents. The jobs paid $150K a year. The whole plan was to gentrify the place.
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#311036 - 02/19/19 05:14 AM Re: The NYC/Amazon Deal [Re: pdx rick]
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Yeah, headquarters aint the same as a fulfillment center.

Gentrification, huh?

Amazon pays too much to open a business there...I get it!
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#311037 - 02/19/19 05:19 AM Re: The NYC/Amazon Deal [Re: jgw]
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Yeah, horrible place to work because you have to actually get up and do stuff, instead of sitting in front of a screen all day. That's what I liked about embedded system programming: The job DID consist of sitting in front of a screen all day. Sometimes in my office, sometimes in a lab, but still sitting.

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#311069 - 02/20/19 07:23 PM Re: The NYC/Amazon Deal [Re: jgw]
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I think, someday, we'll learn the truth of what happened. I just don't happen to believe that Amazon pulled the plug over some minor friction from some local protesters. That would be completely inconsistent with their operations over the last dozen years or so, and there is plenty of evidence that the move was popular(ish) in New York, generally.

OTH, I think that the protesters are basically right about what they are complaining about: pricing local residents out of the housing market, impacts on local infrastructure (e.g., crowded commute corridors), and "tax breaks" for location. I do think, however, that in the long run, it would have been a net positive for the community - but I don't live there.

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#311077 - 02/21/19 12:06 AM Re: The NYC/Amazon Deal [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Pushing out poor people and replacing them with richer people is always good for the community. Not so good for the poors that get pushed out though.

But isn't that kind of the natural order of things? How poor do you let a community get before you start allowing people of means to move in. Is it a choice of gentrification vs ghettofication?

With Amazon(and practically everything else) it's all about the money.
If I was Bezos I'd be hunting some cheap land in the exurbs where some soybean farmer has gone bankrupt and building my own city around my new second headquarters campus.
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