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#311291 - 02/28/19 06:06 AM In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019
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"In like a Lion, Out like a Lamb" it is said of March, but this week, it might be "In like a Liar, Out on the Lam" with Michael Cohen testifying before Congress while Donald Trump is vacationing in Hanoi with his "new love," Kim. Spring is truly in the air.


Oooh, that's not pretty... Let's see what other weather-related sayings come up...

"A dry March and a wet May? Fill barns and bays with corn and hay."

The Corn, of course, can be converted to mash, and thence to...
Ahem! Moving on...

"As it rains in March, so it rains in June."



Oh, this is not going well. Reminders of climate change.

"March winds and April showers? Bring forth May flowers."


Now we're getting somewhere!

"So many mists in March you see, so many frosts in May will be." Uh oh, we're back into that "extreme weather" thing...Do You Remember Normal Weather? Scientists Say Most of Us Don't

"Is’t on St. Joseph’s day (19th) clear,
So follows a fertile year;
Is’t on St. Mary’s (25th) bright and clear,
Fertile is said to be the year."



I think I'm going to end on a high note...

Welcome to the Round Table for March, 2019!

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#311305 - 03/01/19 03:20 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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As if on cue, multiple news outlets have described the new winter weather bursts as March coming "In like a lion". Keep your heads down, and your feet dry. By the way, "the boy is back in town", and is already roaring tweeting, too.

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#311307 - 03/01/19 05:05 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Yeah. We got 4.5 inches of the white stuff here in south central PA overnight.

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#311349 - 03/03/19 09:24 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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So Fatass lied about the US walking-away from the Hanoi Talks per Michael Bolton.

I should have known. Fatass wants a Nobel Peace Prize too badly to have walked away first. He wants everything that Obama has. Hmm
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#311374 - 03/05/19 04:26 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The North Korea thing is just for show anyway: Anybody with an IQ over 60 knows Kim will never give up his nukes. The lesson of Ukraine is not lost on Kim. Everything else is just meaningless play-acting. We can improve out relations, but forget about the nukes. They are here to stay, and if Trump fixates on them he is going to be disappointed every time they meet.

This is a case where "alternate facts" and a "personal relationship" have no effect on reality.

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#311420 - 03/08/19 05:11 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Things that make you go hmmm...

You know how there are certain US Senators who are so desperate for power, they're willing to undermine our democracy? And, did you know if you re-arrange the letters in the word "Senator," you get an entirely different, but very appropriate word, and that word would describe these Senators and that word would be treason?

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#311440 - 03/09/19 01:27 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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This just in...

Trump cheered Patriots to Super Bowl victory with founder of spa where Kraft was busted Miami Herald
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#311453 - 03/10/19 02:31 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Now that "Leaving Neverland" is in the public consciousness, the truth is finally out, yes?
No matter how much evidence piled up that pointed to the fact that Michael Jackson was grooming and molesting young boys, his adoring fans refused to accept that uncomfortable truth.
And MJ's money and power made it possible for him to escape the consequences, but in the end, karma came calling.
But in the meantime, MJ did a horrific amount of damage to simple things like rational and critical thinking.

Now, all that having been said...look around you for a moment.
Is there another powerful and charismatic figure who is currently wielding a kind of Michael Jackson type power over a large portion of the American people...while he grooms and molests the Constitution?
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#311468 - 03/11/19 04:13 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I was on vacation the last 10 days, and forbidden to watch the news, so I missed this: Trevor Noah had the biggest Oscars joke you didn't get (CNN).
Quote:
Noah, who is South African, joked about knowing the movie's main character, T'Challa, played by Chadwick Boseman.
"Growing up as a young boy in Wakanda, I would see T'Challa flying over our village, and he would remind me of a great Xhosa phrase," Noah said. "He says 'abelungu abazi uba ndiyaxoka' -- which means, 'In times like these, we are stronger when we fight together than when we try to fight apart.'"
But those who speak Xhosa got a good chuckle, because what Noah actually said is: "White people don't know I'm lying."
Ilshic! (I laughed so hard I cried.)

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#311471 - 03/11/19 04:50 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Kim will never give up his nukes.

No more than the US will give up its destructive economic sanctions.
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#311497 - 03/12/19 04:17 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Ol' handsome Joe is in!!!! smile

Binden/Harris 2020 Bow
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#311498 - 03/12/19 06:25 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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The Republican Light choice.

He'll shut down all this talk of green new deals and socialism!
And make America 1977 again...
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#311503 - 03/12/19 09:08 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I'm good with Joe signing-on for 1 term to right the ship and getting rid of orange dipshyte, then handing the reins over to Kamala. Hmm

We wouldn't be having this discussion had Hillary done her job and campaigned in WI, MI, and PA and not let 77K votes over three states slip away. coffee
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#311506 - 03/13/19 02:44 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Aw jeeeeez, Rick! That old canard? Polls were solid in those states. 2016 was a fluke. A series of flukes and an outcome so outrageous that it defies logic and reality.

Donald John Motherf*cking Trump is the President of the United States.

I suspect that the dark arts might be involved. There's really no other explanation for this.

Be that as it may, Biden? I know he's polling well, but so was Hillary.
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#311510 - 03/13/19 03:33 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I agree that 2016 was a fluke for many various reasons: Russians, social media, Cambridge Analytica...and 77K votes across three states put the orange dipshyte ahead in the Electoral College.

The EC is the only way a Republican can win the presidency - the ONLY way - because it certainly isn't by the popular vote.

Therefore, we need to campaign in all rust belt states - and not take weekends off like someone did in 2016. Ol' handsome Joe will campaign on weekends. smile We need a guaranteed win and Joe will bring that. This election needs to be about the win, we'll campaign to our ideology, next time. Ergo my suggestion of Harris as running mate.

Trump could not have won if Obama rust belt voters didn't vote for Trump. Hmm
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#311532 - 03/13/19 06:02 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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We need a guaranteed win and Joe will bring that. This election needs to be about the win, we'll campaign to our ideology, next time.

I'm not at all certain that Joe Biden's entry into the race guarantees a win of any sort. It's going to be difficult for Democrats to lose in 2020 but if there's a single candidate who could pull it off Biden would be my bet. How's he do with Hispanics, blacks, women, youth, lefties, and disinterested voters who may or may nor vote.
Where's the excitement? What's the draw?
Why should anyone get off the couch to vote for Biden? He's just another out of touch old white guy.

I'm still favoring Beto. He's goofy, he's good at heart, he's young.
He's relatable to everybody. He's the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with, and more importantly, he's the kind of guy who would genuinely like to have a beer with you too.

He's not a socialist. But socialists needn't fear him.
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#311544 - 03/13/19 10:11 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The excitement is to beat Trump and cement him into history as a one-term President. I definitely think that one of the women should be on the Ticket. The ONLY woman that I think is even worth considering is Kamala Harris.

In poll and poll, Biden is the only one that beats Trump.
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#311547 - 03/14/19 12:09 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Polls don't mean diddly at this point. Biden running on a "remember me I'm a harmless old fool" platform aint gonna cut it when the knives come out. And that's all he's got. People remember him fondly from the Obama administration, they can't name a single thing he's ever done but they recognize his name. That's all the early polls are showing.

He can't name a single thing he's ever done either because he was probably voting with the Republicans and it's best he doesn't mention it...
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#311549 - 03/14/19 02:43 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Those who voted for Hillary thought she was a winning horse too. Bernie would have been President today and beaten orange dumbass if it were not for Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. Hmm
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#311550 - 03/14/19 03:23 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Based strictly on issues, I’d go with an Inslee/Warren ticket.
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#311579 - 03/15/19 02:46 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: logtroll]
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Issues eh? I hadn't even though of that angle.
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#311582 - 03/15/19 11:05 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Issues eh? I hadn't even though of that angle.

I know - issues aren’t what win elections. But it’s too early to make a choice based on personality, charisma, and overall grifting abilities.
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#311584 - 03/15/19 11:57 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Who woulda guessed that Donald J Trump would be an inspiration for hate-motivated crimes? Hmm , coffee
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#311585 - 03/15/19 01:33 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Read some feedback from state and local campaign chairs in the rust belt states that her highness lost in and the idea of Trumps victory there being a fluke will evaporate.
She learned nothing from losing to sanders in the primary and frantic calls to Brooklyn went unanswered during the election.
Corbyn won the biggest gains for Labour I the UK on a issues platform. Bernie may have done it but for the Dem party.

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#311591 - 03/15/19 07:10 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: chunkstyle]
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There's certainly no denying that Bernie gave an empty handed Democratic Party a platform they can work with for decades to come.
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#311596 - 03/16/19 04:21 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Greger]
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There's certainly no denying that Bernie gave an empty handed Democratic Party a platform they can work with for decades to come.

I just saw Andrew Gillum on Real Time. To be honest, I didn't know very much about him.

But, watching him for the past seven minutes - I am IMPRESSED. If Andrew Gillum jumped in, he would become my No. 1 guy immediately. smile
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#311598 - 03/16/19 08:21 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Charismatic isn't he? And a good speaker. Running for president might look good on his resume beside Mayor of Tallahassee but I don't see him drawing much in the way of support for that office. I'm hoping he will stay in politics and run for state office or the US House. He'll do well in Florida but I dunno if he's ready to spread his wings and aim for the top...
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#311599 - 03/16/19 08:53 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Andrew said that he and Stacy brought out the young and diverse vote and that the recent midterm election in Florida was almost at Presidential voting levels.

At least on Real Time, Andrew didn't say anything that would be out of the mainstream for middle America voters. smile
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#311602 - 03/17/19 01:35 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia
NO ENGLISH TRANSLATION EXISTS YET.

"Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists”. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements — extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics.”

Safe to say that Vladimir Putin has been ticking every checkbox in the book, one by one, and he's succeeding.
LINK

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FURTHER READING - KALI TRIBUNE
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#311603 - 03/17/19 05:06 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Rightwingers exude toxic masculinity. Hmm
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#311604 - 03/17/19 07:42 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Rightwingers exude toxic masculinity. Hmm
Toxic, yes. Masculine? I'm not so sure.
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#311606 - 03/17/19 05:08 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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"Weakling coward again attempts to beat up dead man in coffin. Dead man repels attack."
(Victoria Kelly - Malibu CA)
LOL ROTFMOL LOL

Trump goes after McCain over dossier for second straight day

Quote:
President Trump on Sunday criticized late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for a second consecutive day amid reports that one of McCain's associates had shared a dossier of allegations about Trump's ties to Russia with the media.
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#311614 - 03/17/19 08:59 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I'm still favoring Beto.

Beto is having a really bad week - courtesy of the Rightwing pile-on'ers. Where's Booker, nary anything about him these days. I do think I read that Booker just became engaged. Not sure if that is right, though. I might be misremembering. Hmm
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#311618 - 03/17/19 09:48 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Cory got himself a Hottie
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#311619 - 03/17/19 10:38 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Poor Cory Booker...I had high hopes for him. I think he just got a girlfriend because it's unseemly for a single guy to run. We may see his candle burn a little brighter at some point but he's gonna hafta get out there and make headlines somehow.
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#311622 - 03/18/19 03:10 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Poor Cory Booker...I had high hopes for him. I think he just got a girlfriend because it's unseemly for a single guy to run. We may see his candle burn a little brighter at some point but he's gonna hafta get out there and make headlines somehow.

Agreed needs more headlines. My first thought about the new, other-half: beard

Hmm
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#311623 - 03/18/19 03:37 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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beard


Yeah, that was my first thought too. If he'd just go ahead and come out it would generate the headlines he needs.

On the other hand he might just be getting laid so much he never felt the urge to buy the cow. Prominent charismatic black man in a majority black town aint gonna spend a lotta time whackin' off for lack of willing partners...
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#311629 - 03/19/19 03:57 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Greger]
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beard


Yeah, that was my first thought too. If he'd just go ahead and come out it would generate the headlines he needs.

On the other hand he might just be getting laid so much he never felt the urge to buy the cow. Prominent charismatic black man in a majority black town aint gonna spend a lotta time whackin' off for lack of willing partners...

"If" Corey is on the downlow - it's very hard for black Americans to come out because being gay is not accepted in the black culture. Hmm
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#311630 - 03/19/19 04:57 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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"If" Corey is on the downlow - it's very hard for black Americans to come out because being gay is not accepted in the black culture. Hmm


The Hell it ain't!! It's not accepted in the black CHURCH culture, or in conservative black culture, but elsewhere? OMG yeah it is.
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#311636 - 03/19/19 06:23 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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the problem for Democrats are the Democratic Purists. I read where one of them attacked Beto for something he said when he was 15! They don't seem to be able to help themselves and, apparently, are insisting that any and all Democratic candidates conform to their ideas of Democratic purity or be kicked to the sidelines. What I find even more interesting is that they are actually getting away with it!

This, I think, is not a good thing and them even kinda in charge should call out this kind of silly. I helps nothing, just encourages screwing it all up. We are dealing with one stark fact - its "us against them". The Republicans understand this one and, apparently, walk in lockstep and speak up at every opportunity. The Left/Democrats, of course, are above all of that. I recently heard, for instance, that Dems refuse to speak on Fox News even though they have been invited. The Republicans have no such going on and speak their poison anyplace they can. This kind of behavior is simply crazy. If you have a message, and get to tell it to the unbelievers, one would think they would be standing in line. The fact seems to be they are not even vaguely interested. Seems to me this means too much heat to bear so they just stay out of the 'kitchen'. (this is one I heard on Bill Mayher)

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#311637 - 03/19/19 07:09 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick

"If" Corey is on the downlow - it's very hard for black Americans to come out because being gay is not accepted in the black culture. Hmm


The Hell it ain't!! It's not accepted in the black CHURCH culture, or in conservative black culture, but elsewhere? OMG yeah it is.

After you take out those two populations - who is left? Hmm , coffee
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#311638 - 03/19/19 07:26 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
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"If" Corey is on the downlow - it's very hard for black Americans to come out because being gay is not accepted in the black culture. Hmm


The Hell it ain't!! It's not accepted in the black CHURCH culture, or in conservative black culture, but elsewhere? OMG yeah it is.

After you take out those two populations - who is left? Hmm , coffee


Everyone else! Put it this way, the black church community detests gay black men, but they cannot live without their choir directors, almost all of which are gay black men.

I'm going to ask my best friend Rev. Patrick, who happens to be a black gay choir director (among his many legendary musical accomplishments) if Corey is on the downlow.
Not that I don't trust you, but Patrick is famous enough that it wouldn't surprise me if he's met Corey Booker.
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#311639 - 03/19/19 07:28 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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It's not accepted in the black CHURCH culture, or in conservative black culture, but elsewhere? OMG yeah it is.

The only "elsewhere" that we have any right to speak of is white culture, and yeah, white culture accepts black queers about as well as we accept white ones. Whether the black ones are queer or not doesn't much matter because they're black anyway.

I know that's harsh, but let me remind you that our current president was elected because of his racism and bigotry, not in spite of it.

And for christ's sake, gay people have only recently even been allowed to marry! Like they were gonna breed and take over the world or something. The simple act of buying a cake for the ceremony turned into a years long court case.

Maybe the black community is divided like we are into two partisan groups? Churchies and no-churchies, racist and not racist, democrat and republican, gay tolerant and non gay tolerant. But there's not a white man alive that could possibly make a call on that.
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#311640 - 03/19/19 07:41 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Yeah... I've never met a black American who didn't go to church. Hmm , coffee
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#311641 - 03/19/19 07:43 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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After you take out those two populations - who is left?


Yeah, there's that too.
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#311642 - 03/20/19 12:17 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


You have I've never met a black American who didn't go to church. Hmm , coffee


Yeah well, I guess you haven't met a lot of black Americans? ROTFMOL

But seriously, not all of them are religious. And a LOT of gay black men LEFT their churches and organized religion altogether specifically because of the hostile environment.

I wish you could meet Patrick Henderson. I will probably talk with him this weekend and one of us is bound to bring up the latest Methodist brouhaha.

Traditionalists prevail in United Methodist Church sexuality conversation
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#311643 - 03/20/19 01:27 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The United Methodist Church is a white church. They might grudgingly let a few blacks attend and accept donations from gays but they are as bigoted as the Baptists.

The AME(African Methodist Episcopal) Church is a whole different(darker) ball of yarn.(they separated in 1816)
I don't think churches in America are as integrated as some other facets of life, like schools and water fountains....I could be wrong...I'm a white pagan and know nothing of black culture or christianity.

I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that I bet the AME never even held a vote of that sort.
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#311645 - 03/20/19 06:03 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Funny thing: Trump keeps on calling for "opening up the libel laws", but he doesn't understand what that would mean. He wants to punish people and media that say bad things about him. But that's not how libel works. People libel others when they say bad things THAT ARE NOT TRUE. Truth has always been and always will be a perfect defense against libel. In the case of media vrs Trump, they keep reporting bad things that are true!

On the other hand, Trump makes it a frequent habit to say bad things about people and organizations that are not true: If you "open up the libel laws" that would backfire and get Trump into constant legal trouble. His idiotic "opinions", which are now protected, would all become libels and get tested for veracity by the courts.

As usual, be careful what you wish for.

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#311651 - 03/21/19 10:19 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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As usual, Fatass Trump is lying about George Conway asking for a job and being turned-down.

And as usual, it's the other way around, Fatass Trump asked George Conway to join the Administration and George Conway turned Fatass Trump down.

Here's the Letter: George Conway Letter
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#311652 - 03/21/19 10:25 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trumpspeak: Defeat is really victory! Failure is success!

(Realty is always the opposite of what that idiot is saying. Hmm
SEE: Post above this one.)
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#311653 - 03/21/19 01:58 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Today's news out of Norway is interesting. Those left leaning liberals have decided to divest their Government Pension Fund Global (GPFG) from upstream oil and gas producers.

The Norwegian GPFG is the world's largest wealth fund, valued at one trillion dollars.
Their move is primarily concerned about protecting the Norwegian economy from any future plunge in the oil price rather than climate concerns, although these are mentioned by the government.

That's right, one trillion dollars is being repositioned to protect the Norwegian people from the bumps and bruises of a changing capital market.

But I daresay that a trillion dollar move also has a lot to say about climate change, too.
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#311665 - 03/23/19 02:29 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Today's news out of Norway is interesting. Those left leaning liberals have decided to divest their Government Pension Fund Global (GPFG) from upstream oil and gas producers.

The Norwegian GPFG is the world's largest wealth fund, valued at one trillion dollars.
Their move is primarily concerned about protecting the Norwegian economy from any future plunge in the oil price rather than climate concerns, although these are mentioned by the government.

That's right, one trillion dollars is being repositioned to protect the Norwegian people from the bumps and bruises of a changing capital market.

But I daresay that a trillion dollar move also has a lot to say about climate change, too.

Might this have something to do with "peak oil?" Hmm
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#311668 - 03/23/19 04:17 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Flight attendant, a DACA recipient, released by ICE (NBC). I was going to post this yesterday, but now the situation has changed.
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A Mesa Airlines flight attendant, who as a Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program recipient is barred from traveling outside the United States under the Trump administration's rules, was released from immigration detention Friday after being taken into custody when she returned to the U.S. on a flight from Mexico that she had worked.

Selene Saavedra Roman, 28, who works for the regional airline based in Phoenix, walked out of the immigration facility Friday evening dragging her Mesa-issued flight bags, according to a representative for the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA who went to meet her and her attorney. She had been held for more than a month.

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#311669 - 03/23/19 05:13 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Just another example of the cruelty of this administration
and the cruelty of Republicans in general. It's something nearing a soft genocide against all people of color.
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#311684 - 03/24/19 04:08 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Immigration Officials Snatch 9-Year-Old U.S. Citizen Heading To School

They held her 14 year old U.S. citizen brother, too, and threatened him with sex trafficking charges when they tried walking across the border so they would not be late for school.

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#311698 - 03/24/19 08:09 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Jackbooted thugs at the border. This makes Republicans happy. it makes them feel secure. That it might be American children caught up in the concertina wire and machine gunned to death really doesn't matter, as long as brown children are not allowed to enter our great country without proper papers.

I just saw a local poll asking if republicans would vote for Trump again. They all love him and believe "he has done great things for our country".

I dunno what "great things" those might be but I'm guessing that the Children In Cages™ is high on their lists since "illegal immigrants stealing our jobs" is a major problem for them.
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#311700 - 03/24/19 08:24 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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The North Korea thing is just for show anyway: Anybody with an IQ over 60 knows Kim will never give up his nukes. The lesson of Ukraine is not lost on Kim. Everything else is just meaningless play-acting. We can improve out relations, but forget about the nukes. They are here to stay, and if Trump fixates on them he is going to be disappointed every time they meet.

This is a case where "alternate facts" and a "personal relationship" have no effect on reality.


Quite right.
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#311702 - 03/24/19 08:30 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Americans, in general, are addle-pated from all the brainwashing with which they are inundated..

Nothing much in the way of rationality can be expected from them.
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#311705 - 03/24/19 08:42 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: matthew]
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Americans, in general, are addle-pated from all the brainwashing with which they are inundated..

Nothing much in the way of rationality can be expected from them.
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Boy howdy aint that the truth!
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#311708 - 03/24/19 09:42 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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#311709 - 03/24/19 10:08 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Nor his minions...
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#311713 - 03/25/19 07:02 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Boy, I just read something weird: 13,000 years ago humans colonized California's Channel Islands. (EG. Catalina) Of course sea level was lower then so the islands were a single island only about five miles off shore. But the weird part is that there were still 6 foot high pigmy mammoths on the islands at that time! (Not for long, though. I assume they were good eating.) Paleontologists have found hundreds of fossilized mammoth remains on the islands, some almost completely intact. They have also found the earliest signs of humans in the contiguous 48 states.

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#311714 - 03/25/19 07:04 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The yield curve on bonds inverted on Friday. That is a strong warning sign of a coming recession, if it stays that way for a month or so.

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#311727 - 03/26/19 08:57 AM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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This is a heartwarming story:

Muslims Invited To Pray Inside Synagogue

I'm not a religious person, but I like to read about people helping each other out. Seems an accidental fire made the Islamic Society of Mid-Manhattan's mosque unusable when about 600 Muslims came to services to pray for their brothers and sisters in New Zealand. So the rabbis at the historic Central Synagogue down the block invited them to use their space.

I guess sharing space is very easy because Muslims worship on Friday, Jews on Saturday, and Christians on Sunday. Congregations could pool funds and build one common space for all three services. Shows what is possible if people actually had the love for their neighbors in their hearts the way their faith teaches.

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#311728 - 03/26/19 06:40 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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There'll be no living with that orange ässhole now. coffee

Can existing in the same world as the Orange Beast be called "living"? --- allhail
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#311777 - 03/30/19 07:05 PM Re: In like a lion... March Roundtable 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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D'ente by note-passing. What an effing school-girl the bloated orange Fatass is! smile

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