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#311542 - 03/13/19 10:03 PM RICO?
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Just spitballing here: RICO Statute (18 U.S. Code § 1961, et seq.):
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As used in this chapter—
(1) “racketeering activity” means...
(B) any act which is indictable under any of the following provisions of title 18, United States Code:
section 1341 (relating to mail fraud),
section 1343 (relating to wire fraud),
section 1344 (relating to financial institution fraud),
section 1510 (relating to obstruction of criminal investigations),
section 1511 (relating to the obstruction of State or local law enforcement),
section 1512 (relating to tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant),
section 1513 (relating to retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant),
section 1956 (relating to the laundering of monetary instruments),
section 1957 (relating to engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specified unlawful activity),
section 1960 (relating to illegal money transmitters),

Just curious, think any of these things might relate to Donald J. Trump, the Trump Organization, or the Trump Foundation? To other members of his family? To activities Paul Manafort has been involved in? Asking for a "friend".
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#311545 - 03/13/19 10:12 PM Re: RICO? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Just spitballing here: RICO Statute (18 U.S. Code § 1961, et seq.):
Quote:
As used in this chapter—
(1) “racketeering activity” means...
(B) any act which is indictable under any of the following provisions of title 18, United States Code:
section 1341 (relating to mail fraud),
section 1343 (relating to wire fraud),
section 1344 (relating to financial institution fraud),
section 1510 (relating to obstruction of criminal investigations),
section 1511 (relating to the obstruction of State or local law enforcement),
section 1512 (relating to tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant),
section 1513 (relating to retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant),
section 1956 (relating to the laundering of monetary instruments),
section 1957 (relating to engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specified unlawful activity),
section 1960 (relating to illegal money transmitters),

Just curious, think any of these things might relate to Donald J. Trump, the Trump Organization, or the Trump Foundation? To other members of his family? To activities Paul Manafort has been involved in? Asking for a "friend".

All of them KatyTM...erm NW P. smile
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#311553 - 03/14/19 08:02 AM Re: RICO? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trump has actually done most of the RICO crimes, and the rules say you only need to do one of them. It just seems a little unfair because he's too stupid to even recognize when he's committing a crime. He practically tweets a new crime every morning! This does kind of make me wonder about the Mueller investigation wrapping up: How do they stop investigating if Trump keeps on committing new crimes?

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#311555 - 03/14/19 09:39 AM Re: RICO? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I'm beginning to think that Barr has asked for a progress report, and Mueller is preparing one. As you say, though, he keeps having to supplement it.

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#311556 - 03/14/19 01:19 PM Re: RICO? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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How else would Mr Trump's greatest attorney, Giuliani, be able to prepare a rebuttal?
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#311578 - 03/15/19 02:06 AM Re: RICO? [Re: rporter314]
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Rudi can't even keep his own divorce trial on track...
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#311592 - 03/15/19 07:56 PM Re: RICO? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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IT's Friday! Who's being indicted today?
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#311595 - 03/16/19 03:34 AM Re: RICO? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I can see a Mueller strategy of gradually boiling the frog's water. If he indicted everyone possible at once, Trump would probably do something stupid and possibly lethal. Indicting a Flynn her, a Manafort there and the frog hardly notices it's getting warmer.

This is fine

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#311597 - 03/16/19 05:09 PM Re: RICO? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I can see a Mueller strategy of gradually boiling the frog's water. If he indicted everyone possible at once, Trump would probably do something stupid and possibly lethal. Indicting a Flynn her, a Manafort there and the frog hardly notices it's getting warmer.

This is fine

Mueller is not done with Manafort. There's a reason why there was nothing about the Russia stuff in Manafort's indictment.

Hmm
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