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#311788 - 04/01/19 03:10 AM Roundtable for April 2019
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Welcome to the ReaderRant RoundTable
For April 2019

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Lucille Ball, Communist

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Have A Great Month Everybody!



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#311853 - 04/10/19 10:09 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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This is pretty interesting:

We may finally know what causes Alzheimer’s – and how to stop it

And the answer is......gum disease! There is a reason why people with fewer teeth tend to also have Alzheimer's.

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#311859 - 04/10/19 06:24 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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And I just read that gut bacteria causes autism.

What a wonderful world we live in where simple solutions are still the best...

Frequent brushing and sauerkraut can cure two of the worlds biggest health issues.
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#311860 - 04/10/19 06:40 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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My wife doesn't seem to approve of me brushing my teeth with sauerkraut. I think it makes me moody...
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#311864 - 04/11/19 01:18 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: logtroll]
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#311867 - 04/11/19 12:35 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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In other news:
Right now, staffers at The New York Post are enjoying morning coffee, donuts, and even a nice cake decorated with the words, "Ha ha, made you look", I guarantee it.
Good Lord, we're just howler monkeys with brown shoes and a tie.

Males with beards have smaller testicles: study

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#311868 - 04/11/19 12:51 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Maybe I should grow a beard...
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#311869 - 04/11/19 02:33 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: logtroll]
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There may be something to what they're saying...my beard is longer than my dick.
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#311876 - 04/11/19 11:22 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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There may be something to what they're saying...my beard is longer than my dick.


Yeah but if you're rocking the ZZ Top barbooza, nothing to be shy about hahaha.
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#311877 - 04/12/19 01:10 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Just a goatee...

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#311878 - 04/12/19 05:08 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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That actually works on you!

Cheers!


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#311894 - 04/12/19 10:27 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: logtroll]
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Quote:
Maybe I should grow a beard...


I would say so, if you can't get your pants on anymore.

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#311896 - 04/13/19 12:03 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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First Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker trailer. I'm excited... but. NOT UNTIL CHRISTMAS! ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!

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#311933 - 04/16/19 09:01 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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So...I guess it turns out Obama caused the great recession of 2007, two years before he even became President... according to Arthur Laffer. ROTFMOL

Quote:
“Whenever you redistribute income, you reduce total income, and that is what [Sanders is] doing, and I’m very afraid that if he were elected, we would have an enormous crash in the market,” said Laffer. “Now that crash would come in anticipation of his election, but it’s much like Obama, who I believe was the reason we had the Great Recession. As he got closer and closer to winning, the markets collapsed.”


Closer and closer to winning, in 2007???
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#311934 - 04/16/19 12:43 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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They don't call him Laffer for nothing...
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#311940 - 04/16/19 09:20 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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There is a big "Republicans are good for the economy" myth, which actually conflicts with the numbers. When you look at the economic performance during Republican and Democratic administrations, they mostly go down for Republicans and up for Democrats. Republican policies tend to exacerbate income inequality, which hurts the overall economy. Trump's tax bill is a huge example of redistributing income. Laffer is ignoring that, because the only income redistribution he worries about is from rich to everyone else.

I just did my taxes and made out very well because my wife and I have four different Qualified Businesses. I also did my 92 year-old mother's taxes and she got screwed. She's burned through her savings and has to sell her house to pay the assisted living bills.

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#311972 - 04/19/19 02:57 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Who rage Tweets the day after the redacted Mueller report comes out for being "completely and utterly" exonerated?

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#311973 - 04/19/19 02:58 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
There is a big "Republicans are good for the economy" myth, which actually conflicts with the numbers.

Republicans are known patholoigical liars. SEE: Any forum supporting Trump on 04/19/19

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#312002 - 04/21/19 09:44 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Disking at the farm today getting the ground ready for the hemp planting! Going to put in a few tobacco plants, too. Never been a smoker but maybe I'll like a home grown cigar, or a pipe now and then...

We got our new chickens Friday.
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#312003 - 04/21/19 11:27 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: logtroll]
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First time for chickens? Of just a new batch?
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#312006 - 04/22/19 02:25 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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First time since northern Idaho 24 years ago... I bought my wife a chicken coop for her birthday (no time to make anything like that myself anymore). She kept asking what I wanted for my B-day and I couldn't think of anything, so finally told her I wanted five chickens - with a maintenance contract.
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#312007 - 04/22/19 03:42 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Araucanas are cool. They have sideburns and lay blue eggs! Or Rhode Island Reds with their brown eggs. I hear they are pretty hardy. My wife wants some, too. I asked if she wanted them outside the fence so the coyotes could eat them or inside the fence so the dogs could. She wants a chain link chicken yard with chain link on top to keep all non-chickens out. The only problem is roosters. She freaks out about the dogs barking at coyotes in the middle of the night and disturbing the neighbors. Roosters don't just crow at first light. Sometimes they crow all through the night. So I think she is not ready for that. We would have to make sure we have no roosters, ever.

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#312011 - 04/22/19 04:47 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Araucanas are cool. They have sideburns and lay blue eggs! Or Rhode Island Reds with their brown eggs. I hear they are pretty hardy. My wife wants some, too. I asked if she wanted them outside the fence so the coyotes could eat them or inside the fence so the dogs could. She wants a chain link chicken yard with chain link on top to keep all non-chickens out. The only problem is roosters. She freaks out about the dogs barking at coyotes in the middle of the night and disturbing the neighbors. Roosters don't just crow at first light. Sometimes they crow all through the night. So I think she is not ready for that. We would have to make sure we have no roosters, ever.


Wait, help a complete moron out for a sec, would ya?
I know ZERO about this stuff but my gut tells me that perpetually lonely hens who don't have any contact with roosters is a problem.
Am I wrong about this? You mean it is possible to just have celibate hens their entire lives?
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#312024 - 04/23/19 06:00 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Nope. No rooster necessary for eggs. If you want fertile eggs and more chickens, then you need a rooster. But if you did that, about half of them would be roosters, which would be my definition of Hell. You get an all-girl egg squad by buying "sexed" chicks. Even then, you might get a rooster or two. Unfortunately, what you need to do then is to kill them. If you are trying to populate an egg ranch, you are going to have to do a lot of rooster murder.

Goats and cows are a different story: To get milk, you have to breed them. But you can use artificial insemination rather than finding a bull or billy goat. They have the calf or kid, and then you wean them when they are old enough but keep on milking mama goat or cow. They will produce milk for a few years before they dry up and you have to do it all over again.

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#312027 - 04/23/19 04:13 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I know a little something of this....

Nope, you don't need a rooster. But hens depend on roosters for more than just reproduction. Personally I wouldn't be without one. They are your first line of defense against predators. They tell the hens whether the threat is from the air or from the ground. They find food and call the hens to it. They herd the flock to safety whenever they perceive danger. They even build nests for the girls to lay eggs in then guard the girls as they are laying. Roosters are important to the dynamics of a successful flock.

If you are in a position to have chickens and are able to keep a rooster then by all means do. You will have a much happier and better
adjusted flock. But most towns that allow chickens do not allow roosters. Yep...they noisy. After a while you don't really hear them but your neighbor might...

Predators are not a bad thing. Chickens only lay eggs reliably for about three years. After that they just become freeloaders. So the goal is to achieve a balance. Let them free range enough so that the predators pick off any extra roosters you might acquire and the older, slower hens.

Dogs and chickens have co-existed since time out of mind. Unless you've got a pack of wild unmanageable dogs they will get along fine. I had to whack my dog one time when he was young for chasing chickens. It's one of those barnyard rules that dogs are born with, sometimes they just have to be reminded.

Dogs are supposed to guard livestock. Not eat it.

**edit** also roosters should not be allowed to bully the dogs!


Edited by Greger (04/23/19 04:28 PM)
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#312029 - 04/23/19 07:16 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I do recall a hilarious video of a Jack Russel-like dog pulling a hen into a shed so he could hump her. Dogs will be dogs.

Oh good lord: I went to google it and youtube is filled with dog-chicken love.

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#312050 - 04/26/19 01:42 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I do recall a hilarious video of a Jack Russel-like dog pulling a hen into a shed so he could hump her. Dogs will be dogs.

Oh good lord: I went to google it and youtube is filled with dog-chicken love.


Proof of the End Times. ROTFMOL
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#312051 - 04/26/19 03:45 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I read that Lachlan Murdoch is now running Fox News, and he's not a Trump fan. Trump is quoted as tweeting "Whats with Fox News?" because they had Bernie Sanders in a Fox Town Hall broadcast talking about Fox hiring Donna Brazile! Oh, no! What is Trump going to watch now? Where are his policy ideas going to come from?

Don't worry though: Lachlan is apparently a Libertarian, so the News may take a more-conservative less-Trump direction. Meanwhile, Lachlan's brother James is looking to start up an anti-Fox network.

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#312057 - 04/27/19 02:14 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I read that Lachlan Murdoch is now running Fox News, and he's not a Trump fan. Trump is quoted as tweeting "Whats with Fox News?" because they had Bernie Sanders in a Fox Town Hall broadcast talking about Fox hiring Donna Brazile! Oh, no! What is Trump going to watch now? Where are his policy ideas going to come from?

Don't worry though: Lachlan is apparently a Libertarian, so the News may take a more-conservative less-Trump direction. Meanwhile, Lachlan's brother James is looking to start up an anti-Fox network.


James is what???? You gotta gimme a linky dinky!
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#312060 - 04/27/19 04:48 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I think it was at Vanity Fair but I'm over their non-subscriber limit now. You might want to have a look at this:
Lachlan Murdoch is in a Trump Trap
They are having some shake-ups at Fox.

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#312080 - 04/30/19 05:08 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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What happened to RR over the weekend? Hmm
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#312085 - 04/30/19 04:50 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


What happened to RR over the weekend? Hmm


Server upgrade and the usual glitches that accompany that.
All better now smile
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#312089 - 04/30/19 07:03 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Boy, I'm glad the rant is back. I was jonseing for discussions.
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#312095 - 05/01/19 06:29 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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The web server gets upgraded and won't support the programs that have been written for it. That's what all those deprecation errors were about. Somebody had to go in and fix the programs. Don't be surprised if a few more pop up when you try to use some little-used function in the web site.

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#312104 - 05/02/19 05:17 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I just want to let all Ranters know how much I appreciate you.

I have spent a month learning just how crazy it is outside of our little bubble here of sanity. I am participating on another discussion forum and the number of outright loonies there is astounding. I don't know if it is a representative sample or not, but I am just appalled at the absolute sycophancy and irredeemably gross mischaracterization of everything that is promoted by Trump loyalists. It seems impossible that it is not deliberate, or state-sponsored.

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#312108 - 05/02/19 06:56 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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The internet has become the Great Equalizer: It used to be only intelligent people used the internet. Sure, there were conservatives on the net, but they had intellectual arguments for their political views. Now any idiot can have internet access, and probably does. It's kind of like flying on airplanes: We used to dress in business attire to fly. Now it's short shorts, flip flops, sports bras, etc. It looks like WalMart in the cabin!

I know a post is going to be a doozy when I see whole paragraphs without any punctuation.

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#312109 - 05/02/19 01:34 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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... I am just appalled at the absolute sycophancy and irredeemably gross mischaracterization of everything that is promoted by Trump loyalists. It seems impossible that it is not deliberate, or state-sponsored.

The combination of internet ease of access and the mind-numbing gullibility of humans is fertile ground for all manner of ethics-less and criminal grifters. And all the noise has made it impossible to sort the truth from the con in a discussion, because there are no remaining boundaries of rationality involved in the act of "discussion". Pros like Trump, or "King Kon" as I call him, know this and use it to great advantage - though I can't really see the long term advantage in it to anyone.

Recently someone posted a tweet that showed a massive crowd outside of a public venue, saying it was the overflow from Trump's recent Green Bay rally and that it represented the kind of overwhelming support he has. I wondered if it was actually from his rally, so I googled the venue and quickly verified that it was a lie - it was a different building. There was a banner over the entry on which I could make out "Griffins", so I Googled that and found it is a hockey team in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and their arena was indeed the building in the post.

I shared that information with my Trump Zombie friends and they flat out rejected the evidence of photos, accusing me of being mentally defective for photoshopping The Truth into A Lie. I suggested that perhaps they had been duped by Russians, as revealed in the Mueller investigation - or maybe one of their own - how did they feel about that? Well, what they felt is that I am a condescending assshole and should be banned from the internet.

Eeks! eek2
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#312110 - 05/02/19 01:54 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I just want to let all Ranters know how much I appreciate you.

I have spent a month learning just how crazy it is outside of our little bubble here of sanity. I am participating on another discussion forum and the number of outright loonies there is astounding. I don't know if it is a representative sample or not, but I am just appalled at the absolute sycophancy and irredeemably gross mischaracterization of everything that is promoted by Trump loyalists. It seems impossible that it is not deliberate, or state-sponsored.


Speaking as someone who has tried out no less than SEVEN of the most popular online political forums, I assure you that the one you're referring to is perhaps the most civilized or close to it.

Put it this way, shutting down Stormfront has resulted in collateral damage. That's maybe a slight exaggeration, but only a slight one.

The bright spot in all of this is, it illustrates why the Rant is so important, and why it would be so great if we could attract more voices to the Rant instead of vice versa.

It still amuses me as to what would happen if Ranters all decided to "visit the other place" from time to time however.

Contact me back channel if you want more details.
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#312111 - 05/02/19 03:23 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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**Sighs** I just can't deal with them anymore.

When religion and politics come together it's bad. When a charismatic leader enters the picture it gets worse.

When all three come together to form a cult of personality it almost always spells doom for the nation involved.

Those who are in thrall to it are no longer rational human beings.

This might be the zombie apocalypse.
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#312112 - 05/02/19 04:17 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger

This might be the zombie apocalypse.





FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!
We must fight the zombie apocalypse.
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#312113 - 05/02/19 04:21 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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It sure does appear that the brain power of some of these trolls is about on par with a zombie. I am not sure which is the chicken, which the egg, or if it is just symbiosis. Is it the inanity attracting the trolls, or is it the trolls creating the environment? OR, is it the inevitable result of leaving your meatloaf out on the counter - it's going to go bad. Mention Trump and it is off to the races - you can't exterminate the flies, they multiply too fast.

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#312114 - 05/02/19 04:23 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


What happened to RR over the weekend? Hmm


Rick, check in with me please.
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#312119 - 05/03/19 02:19 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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It sure does appear that the brain power of some of these trolls is about on par with a zombie.


These are not just trolls, this is half of America.

I don't know what has gotten into these people. It's as though they're possessed.
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#312122 - 05/03/19 12:04 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I don't know what has gotten into these people. It's as though they're possessed.


I totally agree. I find myself many times thinking, What is wrong with these people? Why can they not see the lies?
It just baffles me totally!

Even the family members that love Trump are the same way. I cannot have a rational conversation about Trump with them. The first things out of their mouths are: "Obama did this..." or "Obama did that.." or "It's the Democrats fault!"

I don't even try anymore. Maybe that is part of the problem too. I'm getting too old to get in to fist fights! Maybe I should not hold my tongue - maybe I should totally scream and flip out on their (for lack of a better word) stupidity - although some of them are actually really smart.

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#312123 - 05/03/19 02:59 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I just want to let all Ranters know how much I appreciate you.

I have spent a month learning just how crazy it is outside of our little bubble here of sanity. I am participating on another discussion forum and the number of outright loonies there is astounding. I don't know if it is a representative sample or not, but I am just appalled at the absolute sycophancy and irredeemably gross mischaracterization of everything that is promoted by Trump loyalists. It seems impossible that it is not deliberate, or state-sponsored.

The 4-Chan and 8-Chan loonies are especially annoying. Thank you Ronald Reagan for unleashing the mentally ill onto the public square. Good job, Ronnie! smile
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#312124 - 05/03/19 03:01 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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The internet has become the Great Equalizer: It used to be only intelligent people used the internet. Sure, there were conservatives on the net, but they had intellectual arguments for their political views. Now any idiot can have internet access, and probably does. It's kind of like flying on airplanes: We used to dress in business attire to fly. Now it's short shorts, flip flops, sports bras, etc. It looks like WalMart in the cabin!

I know a post is going to be a doozy when I see whole paragraphs without any punctuation.

Conservatives are underachieving bellyachers whose only happiness in life will be to win a slip and fall case against Walmart.
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#312125 - 05/03/19 03:02 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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**Sighs** I just can't deal with them anymore.

When religion and politics come together it's bad. When a charismatic leader enters the picture it gets worse.

When all three come together to form a cult of personality it almost always spells doom for the nation involved.

Those who are in thrall to it are no longer rational human beings.

This might be the zombie apocalypse.

The modern Republican party is equivalent to Scientology: Leadership are super rich, corrupt, cruel bullies and 90% of their followers are clueless and lost useful idiots beat into obedience. Hmm
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#312126 - 05/03/19 03:14 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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It still amuses me as to what would happen if Ranters all decided to "visit the other place" from time to time however.

You mean CHB? Hmm

I actually went here for the first time in well over a year - or maybe even two or three - when RR went down to see what was going on with RR.

I don't like the format of CHB. I like the format of RR better. smile
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#312127 - 05/03/19 03:18 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
It still amuses me as to what would happen if Ranters all decided to "visit the other place" from time to time however.

You mean CHB? Hmm

I actually went here for the first time in well over a year - or maybe even two or three - when RR went down to see what was going on with RR.

I don't like the format of CHB. I like the format of RR better. smile


Check your PM's.
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#312148 - 05/05/19 04:27 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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CHB is kind of irritating because you can't fix errors. I do post there every now and then, but I do that very carefully before I submit the post.

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#312149 - 05/05/19 07:40 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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#312153 - 05/05/19 01:46 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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#312154 - 05/05/19 03:08 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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CHB is kind of irritating because you can't fix errors. I do post there every now and then, but I do that very carefully before I submit the post.


Well, it is, after all, just the COMMENTS section of what is really an online newspaper. It isn't a discussion or debate forum. We are the debate forum.
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#312156 - 05/05/19 03:21 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
CHB is kind of irritating because you can't fix errors. I do post there every now and then, but I do that very carefully before I submit the post.


Well, it is, after all, just the COMMENTS section of what is really an online newspaper. It isn't a discussion or debate forum. We are the debate forum.

I beg to differ! devil
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#312162 - 05/08/19 02:56 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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#312163 - 05/08/19 05:08 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Amazing! He should write a book!

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#312166 - 05/08/19 06:33 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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#312208 - 05/15/19 03:52 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Re: War with Iran


There is a guy that I work with that is in the National Guard. He has a Degree in Chemistry and is a Chemical Specialist in the Guard.

He has orders as of two weeks ago of being deployed to Jordan at the end of July 2019 for a year.

Coincidence? I think not. Hmm
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#312213 - 05/15/19 03:58 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Republicans love them some wars! Nothing makes you feel more patriotic than flag draped caskets full of other peoples children.

Looks like NWP and Jeff have left us for a busier forum. I tried it over there but it moved too quickly and discussions just get buried under hundreds of replies. Lotta nice folks over there but I prefer to work a smaller room...
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#312221 - 05/15/19 11:56 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Republicans love them some wars! Nothing makes you feel more patriotic than flag draped caskets full of other peoples children.

Looks like NWP and Jeff have left us for a busier forum. I tried it over there but it moved too quickly and discussions just get buried under hundreds of replies. Lotta nice folks over there but I prefer to work a smaller room...




I have not gone anywhere. I check in here at least once if not twice a day. The Rant will always be my home unless I get evicted. smile
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#312226 - 05/16/19 06:25 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Me too! My apologies though. I've been gearing up for a month long trip with my sisters tracing our 4-greats-grandfather's trip to the California gold rush in 1850. We've done it in 3 segments, and this final leg is from Salt Lake City to Nevada city, California. Even in modern times there is a lot of logistics involved! My honey and I (and our little dog too!) leave May 28 in our little RV (Harvey), and we'll get home around the 19th of June, after another 2500-3000 miles of travel.

We have the journals, and letters home, describing their route and sights along the way, and we're trying to see them all. Last summer's trip from Independence, MO to Salt Lake City was one of the most meaningful events of my life. Not just history coming to life, but communing with ancestors. It's truly the trip of a lifetime.

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#312275 - 05/19/19 04:12 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Well, my friends, I spent much of the day improving my computer and internet connectivity. I literally improved my internet speed 2000%. I went from sub 10 Mbps, to over 200 Mbps connectivity. Now 90% of my household gets 3-4x connection speed than yesterday. I'll let you know if that changes. Right now I want to watch some streaming movies....

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#312276 - 05/19/19 05:21 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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If you run some ethernet cables, you can give everybody at least 100 Mbps. Shorter cable runs with the right router and ethernet adapters get the whole 200 Mbps by using a gigabit ethernet link. Most 802.11 routers do much less and they divide their limited bandwidth up among the active computers. If you have a lot of close neighbors all with 802.11 routers, it can get pretty bad.

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#312277 - 05/19/19 02:16 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Heh...1.5 mbps is the best I can ever hope for.
No cable here in the swamp and certainly no wireless. Cell phones don't even work here. I'm 7 miles from the DSL repeater and the last 3 are copper instead of fiber optic.

I've considered satellite but they won't guarantee anything and you can't find out your available speed without signing a two year contract.
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#312278 - 05/19/19 03:24 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Heh...1.5 mbps is the best I can ever hope for.
No cable here in the swamp and certainly no wireless. Cell phones don't even work here. I'm 7 miles from the DSL repeater and the last 3 are copper instead of fiber optic.

I've considered satellite but they won't guarantee anything and you can't find out your available speed without signing a two year contract.
Greger, I am very sympathetic. I have had lousy service for much of my time here. When I first got a cell phone, I got great service to and from work. But the two places I couldn't get reception? Home and work. When I first got internet it was over the phone - 2400 baud (way better than 1200!), then I got DSL, but it was spotty at best, and boy was it slow. Recently I got a "bundle" that included a phone I don't use and internet speeds my computers couldn't handle. Only my son really took advantage (via ethernet). I got fed up with it, and upgraded everything. Do I need it? Probably not, I'm retired, but... I could, so I did.

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#312284 - 05/19/19 08:58 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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It's really not so bad. I can watch Netflix, YouTube videos, and porn.
What more could an old man need? Gameing downloads can be nightmarish ordeals that last for days. And of course online gaming is out of the question.

That's why I'm here. Politics is the best game on the internet.
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#312285 - 05/20/19 04:18 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Satellite internet sucks. The download speed is good but uplink can be glacial. So surfing the web is terrible. The overall bandwidth is 1.5 Mbps with 500 msec latency for Direct TV's internet service. That's why they try to bundle Direct TV with some other broadband ISP anywhere they can. If you live out in the boonies, you are screwed. Back when I had it, they would try to preload all your usual web sites into a local cache before you went online.

At least your 1.5 Mbps DSL would have much lower latency, so web surfing would be reasonable.

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#312289 - 05/20/19 05:42 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all


At least your 1.5 Mbps DSL would have much lower latency, so web surfing would be reasonable.


WiMax was SUPPOSED to take care of all the remote boondocks subscribers with up to 6 or even 10 mbps and NON-line of site coverage for "cell zones" up to 35 miles in diameter.

And then suddenly the FCC decided it wanted to auction off pretty much the entire spectrum space that WiMax was supposed to use.
And now that's the end of that here in the USA far as I know.

Strangely enough, Haiti is now one of the biggest WiMax users.
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#312290 - 05/20/19 07:49 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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There is lots of stuff that could be the next great thing, and then you never hear about it again. One of the chips I worked on at Globespan-Virata was a 4 channel 100 Mbps DSL router. So the phone companies could run fiber to an apartment building or office building, and support four 100 Mbps internet channels. Or bond the channels and have one 400 MBps internet channel. I did the verification of the design and it actually worked perfectly in the first silicon! (That was almost unheard of for such a complex design at the time.)

I went on to Rockwell when they bought my division, and then got laid off a year later. Never heard a thing about the chip after that. Such is tech.

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#312292 - 05/20/19 03:40 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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There is lots of stuff that could be the next great thing, and then you never hear about it again. One of the chips I worked on at Globespan-Virata was a 4 channel 100 Mbps DSL router. So the phone companies could run fiber to an apartment building or office building, and support four 100 Mbps internet channels. Or bond the channels and have one 400 MBps internet channel. I did the verification of the design and it actually worked perfectly in the first silicon! (That was almost unheard of for such a complex design at the time.)

I went on to Rockwell when they bought my division, and then got laid off a year later. Never heard a thing about the chip after that. Such is tech.


Well they did end up doing a lot of channel bonding, but I don't know if your chip was involved. Very late in my career I got to use a device called a "Live U" which bonds up to six cellular connections simultaneously in order to provide a super high speed wide bandwidth connection for live HD camera-to-studio links. Yes, your single cellphone will transmit video all by itself but a Live U unit will support live HD all the way up to 4K ultra-high definition video over the network. It eliminates the need for a live remote truck, so it is basically a live remote truck stuffed into a backpack.

Live U TV
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#312295 - 05/21/19 01:42 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I think they may have used my chip in Japan. But that's a nifty use of bonding for HD video. They would need to have a few seconds of buffer so they can reassemble the six cellular streams into one isochronous HD stream.

I was recently working on upgrading drone video from NTSC to HD (just 720P) a while back. There was a very nice chip that would compress an HD camera output into an H.264 digital stream. Their existing radio had the needed bandwidth, so all we had to do was get the compression chip on board. It went very well. I think all the military drone operators are now getting HD images back.

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#312305 - 05/21/19 11:57 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I think they may have used my chip in Japan. But that's a nifty use of bonding for HD video. They would need to have a few seconds of buffer so they can reassemble the six cellular streams into one isochronous HD stream.

I was recently working on upgrading drone video from NTSC to HD (just 720P) a while back. There was a very nice chip that would compress an HD camera output into an H.264 digital stream. Their existing radio had the needed bandwidth, so all we had to do was get the compression chip on board. It went very well. I think all the military drone operators are now getting HD images back.


It's almost impossible to believe that H.264 (AVC) is now SIXTEEN YEARS OLD. Some of us don't even have cars that old anymore.
But I also remember that, with the editing computer workstations of 2003, the H.264 codec was enough to bring even an enterprise level machine to its knees, especially in a 32 bit environment, which described most systems still in use at the time.

And now H.265 (HEVC) is experiencing the same kind of computational "jet lag" and it also comes with some hefty licensing fees, at least compared to the older MPEG fee schedules.
Hardware mfrs are loathe to get cornered with those MPEG fees.
I remember when JVC changed TWO single header bits on a frame in order to create their own workaround to the MPEG-2 based "HDV" codec so that their hard drive and SD card based consumer camcorders could be price competitive.
The JVC codec was .TOD and all you had to do was rename the file extension and a TOD file would work in any editing software, but it caused a ton of anguish among editors who did not have the engineering chops to understand JVC's cute little parlor trick.
Far as they were concerned, a TOD file would not work, period.

I don't know if anyone is trying to backdoor the H.265 codec but take a look at it, as it is quite astounding, if you don't already know about it.

H.264 vs H.265 — A technical comparison.
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#312309 - 05/22/19 07:29 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I put 18 solar panels on their ground-mount frame today. Lots of work, made less than easy by 15 MPH winds. Carrying those panels by myself was a bitch and a half. They want to take off in that wind. Fortunately they acted fine once they were mounted: The ground-mount is rated for 110 MPH wind! Got to get all the wiring done tomorrow because the building inspector comes on Thursday. I just need to connect the solar panel strings to the underground wiring, otherwise everything else is connected.

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#312320 - 05/23/19 12:35 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I put 18 solar panels on their ground-mount frame today. Lots of work, made less than easy by 15 MPH winds. Carrying those panels by myself was a bitch and a half. They want to take off in that wind. Fortunately they acted fine once they were mounted: The ground-mount is rated for 110 MPH wind! Got to get all the wiring done tomorrow because the building inspector comes on Thursday. I just need to connect the solar panel strings to the underground wiring, otherwise everything else is connected.


You're in good shape, buddy.
That's a lot of work, good on you mate.
Keep us posted.
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#312321 - 05/23/19 03:22 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Quote:
They want to take off in that wind.


More than one man has been dragged off the roof while humping plywood around.

If I was able I'd be doing it too. It amazes me that power providers aren't building huge solar arrays everywhere. It's free fuel...seems like a no brainer to me...? We don't have much wind down here but we have tons of blazing assed sunshine way too much of the time. The main use for solar down here is rooftop water heaters for swimming pools.
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#312322 - 05/23/19 06:49 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Always walk upwind of the plywood. That way the wind can take the plywood, instead of the plywood and you!

Got the last PV cables today and connected them. System works! My electric meter shows a negative KWatt number with the whole system enabled. I was surprised when the building inspector told me I could actually turn it on to test it, with no inspection. But I guess it a fiasco trying to get pre-turnon inspection, then turn it on, then get a post-turnon inspection.

The wind actually made the solar panels lighter, so there was that. But I could have done without it. Had to do a bunch of crawling around under the array today to get it connected and to zip-tie some of the cables to the frame. Inspectors like to see everything neat and clean, so I may do some more zip ties before he comes.

Funny they need solar heat for pools in Florida: Last time I was there, we went out on a boat to do some snorkeling and I was getting seasick from the choppy warm water. I had to get out of the water and back on the boat to feel better. I think a much better use for solar would be for hot water heating. Those systems have a much shorter payback time than solar electric.

Maybe it's a cost thing? If the hurricane takes your pool heater, it's no big deal. Those things are quite cheap.

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#312329 - 05/23/19 03:02 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Other than Hurricane Season, Florida is a great place to generate hot water and electricity. If your work on it enough, you can also wring plenty of water from the air and ship it to CA, AZ and NM. crazy
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#312337 - 05/23/19 06:34 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I live in North San Diego County and we desalinate ocean water. It costs less in electricity to desalinate right here than to transport it from the Sacrament delta! Not too many people know that, but water transportation uses about 25% of the electricity generated in California. Shipping it from Florida would cost more than desalinating the Pacific Ocean, the Gulf of California, or the Gulf of Mexico. Same for all those "ship it from Oregon, Washington, or British Columbia" ideas.

That's why the idea that we will have "fresh water wars" is BS: Fresh water is available almost everywhere, it just has a cost that's higher than a river running through town. But the cost is surprisingly low, and you can even generate the needed electricity with solar panels since it doesn't have to run at night.

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#312342 - 05/24/19 04:09 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Passed my inspection except I need to post two signs that show where all the solar equipment is for firefighters. I should have them in a couple of days.

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#312343 - 05/24/19 05:07 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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So Assange has had his indictment upgraded to include charges about receiving secret information that the Washington Post and the New York Times could also be charged with. I think this is a ploy by the Trump administration to prevent him ever being extradited by England or Sweden to the US, since neither of those countries is going to send someone for political persecution. Upgrading the charges before extradition is either extremely stupid or tactical. I don't think Trump's guys are all extremely stupid.

I suppose if Assange was brave, he would call their bluff, wave extradition, and spill EVERYTHING at trial. He would likely be found not guilty of the receiving charges and the original charge was that he offered to help hack a DoD computer but failed. Maybe he could make a deal for a light sentence in exchange for testimony about other stuff, like all the involvement of the Trump campaign and Russia in publishing the stolen emails.

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#312354 - 05/25/19 07:03 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I was going to start a separate thread for this, but then decided... nah: Owners of Noah's Ark replica sue for rain damage (FOX). No, really.

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#312355 - 05/25/19 07:15 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I was going to start a separate thread for this, but then decided... nah: Owners of Noah's Ark replica sue for rain damage (FOX). No, really.


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#312378 - 05/28/19 04:19 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Heading out for a 3+ week adventure in the morning! We've carefully loaded the wagon, packed the library with maps and journals, and we're heading off to the gold fields of California. California or bust! This is the final leg of our family Gold Rush sojourn, following the letters and journals of our ancestors and relatives who made the trek in 1850. If I strike gold, I promise to tell you all about it... in my Last Will and Testament. wink

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#312382 - 05/29/19 04:10 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I was going to start a separate thread for this, but then decided... nah: Owners of Noah's Ark replica sue for rain damage (FOX). No, really.

Why didn't the Kentucky dumbasses make the Ark waterproof to begin with? I mean Noah did. Hmm
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#312386 - 05/29/19 06:40 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Actually, their arc suffered no damage. It was the access road that washed out, but the insurance company refused to pay which is the standard MO for insurance companies.

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#312397 - 05/30/19 02:47 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Flood insurance is generally sold separately....apparently a flood interfered with access to the ark. In Biblical times the Lord would have seen to it that everyone was on board before washing out the road.

This money grubbing grandstanding by religious fanatics does not have the same divine protection.
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#312411 - 06/01/19 03:24 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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This might cheer you all up a bit:

GOP Nightmare

Seems the biggest gerrymandering consultant died and voting rights advocates obtained his hard drives and thumb drives legally. Now Republicans are horrified because most of their gerrymandering work is about to come undone. Hofeller worked in many states in the US, for decades. They have over 75000 files!

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Thursday, they dropped the first bombshell from Hofeller’s hard drives: A key portion of a 2015 memo written by Hofeller appeared in a draft Justice Department letter used to justify the Trump administration’s efforts to add a citizenship question to the census. Hofeller’s memo, which explains why the citizenship question would boost the voting power of “Republicans and non-Hispanic Whites,” indicates that administration officials lied about the reason for adding the question.

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#312413 - 06/01/19 04:05 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
This might cheer you all up a bit:

GOP Nightmare

Seems the biggest gerrymandering consultant died and voting rights advocates obtained his hard drives and thumb drives legally. Now Republicans are horrified because most of their gerrymandering work is about to come undone. Hofeller worked in many states in the US, for decades. They have over 75000 files!

Quote:
Thursday, they dropped the first bombshell from Hofeller’s hard drives: A key portion of a 2015 memo written by Hofeller appeared in a draft Justice Department letter used to justify the Trump administration’s efforts to add a citizenship question to the census. Hofeller’s memo, which explains why the citizenship question would boost the voting power of “Republicans and non-Hispanic Whites,” indicates that administration officials lied about the reason for adding the question.

I heard that yesterday on the news.

Republicans have resorted to gerrymandering, voter-suppression and cultivated this philosophy: If you can't beat 'em, cheat ‘em! Hmm
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#312422 - 06/01/19 06:59 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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June 1, 2019 is the start of Pride Month. This year's Pride Month is the 50-year anniversary of Stonewall. It's the night on June 22, 1969, when NYC cops went into a Greenwich Village bar to harass the gays as usual, but this night, the hustlers and drag queens fought back.

I've always known that story.

What I didn't know, and I just learned from John Waters yesterday, was that Garland died that day too 06/22/69. No wonder the drag queens were in such a bad mood that evening and fought back.

smile
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#312423 - 06/02/19 12:43 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pdx rick]
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Quote:
Republicans have resorted to gerrymandering, voter-suppression and cultivated this philosophy: If you can't beat 'em, cheat ‘em!


Loggy calls it "...good ol' fashioned right wing salesmanship!"
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#312427 - 06/02/19 01:09 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Loggy calls it "...good ol' fashioned right wing salesmanship!"

That's right. I'm a Democrat
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#312428 - 06/02/19 01:44 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: logtroll]
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Did Jesus Poop?

(Found this on Hal Brown's website...)
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#312429 - 06/02/19 02:20 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Loggy calls it "...good ol' fashioned right wing salesmanship!"

That's right. I'm a Democrat

Old School Democrats Who Voted For Trump Because Of His Sales Pitch
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#312439 - 06/04/19 04:36 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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David Letterman's My Guest Needs No Introduction started it's second season this past weekend interviewing Kanye. It was a good interview until Kanye started talking about Fatass Trump and how Liberals are bullies and mean to Trump supporters.

Can you say: Clean-up on aisle 4, a snowflake is melting...please bring a mop? laugh

What...a...crybaby! Hmm

...and no TrumpTARDs, a Liberal does not have to tolerate you being an a-hole. coffee
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#312440 - 06/04/19 05:25 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee claims that the Dred Scott SCOTUS decision is still the law of the land.
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#312441 - 06/04/19 07:24 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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This is why it's actually nice to have people running the government who have legal training. They may be scumbags, but at least they know what is legal and illegal, and how the US government works. I consider Trump an experiment in having somebody else run things. Didn't work out so well, did it?

Maybe a successful big businessman (Romney?) would have been a better experiment than a conman like Trump.

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#312451 - 06/04/19 10:14 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all


Maybe a successful big businessman (Romney?) would have been a better experiment than a conman like Trump.


Bain Capital? Successful for Romney and his cronies. For the businesses they took over, swallowed up and busted out, not so much.
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#312455 - 06/05/19 04:21 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I'm not saying Romney's a nice guy. I'm just saying he's competent, with no tendency to get the US in trouble by cancelling every agreement made by Obama. He wouldn't start trade wars with everybody. Wouldn't suck up to our enemies and insult our allies. Wouldn't say he trusts Kim over his intelligence services. So many things he wouldn't do, that Trump has done.

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#312457 - 06/05/19 04:48 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I see Hope Hicks has a congressional subpoena. Trump has ordered her to ignore it, which sounds like yet another act of Obstruction of Justice to me. I think everybody in the Trump orbit should start thinking about how many of Nixon's guys ended up in prison. They may have let Nixon fly off to San Clemente, but they put many of his subordinates in jail.

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#312460 - 06/05/19 05:20 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Trump's policy is simply to stonewall everything.
Eventually there might be a court order to provide the information but it could be years down the road. The deal will be done by then.

The deal is all that matters.
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#312482 - 06/07/19 06:37 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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I wasn't aware of this:

I Took Magic Mushrooms To Treat The World’s Worst Headaches

This is factual evidence that magic mushrooms actually DO have a medical use. They seem to be fantastically useful for cluster headaches. They have been using ergot-derived drugs for this for decades, so it's not a surprise. This means the DEA legally can no longer keep psilocybin classified as a Class 1 drug. (Just like cannabis.) It has to be classified as a prescriptable drug.

I noticed stories about certain states decriminalizing the mushrooms, but I thought it was just for fun. This is a serious medicine for people with a chronic disease that makes them consider suicide.

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#312484 - 06/08/19 07:35 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Sorta makes you wonder why weed is still a class 1 drug...
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#312486 - 06/09/19 04:02 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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The DEA has approved some CBD drugs, and there is currently a law suit to force them to reclassify weed.

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The "war against marijuana" arguably began in 1930, where a new division in the Treasury Department was established — the Federal Bureau of Narcotics — and Harry J. Anslinger was named director. This, if anything, marked the beginning of the all-out war against marijuana.


My favorite Anslinger quote: “Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”
Second runner up: "This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes"

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#312490 - 06/09/19 03:44 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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"This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes"

Nah, it aint the weed...You know what's ten inches long and white?

Nuthin'
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#312491 - 06/09/19 03:58 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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So what's stopping the Democratic House from passing legislation removing cannabis from that list?

Passing it loudly and publicly and sending it to the Senate with much ado and as much fanfare as possible so that Mitch McConnell gets asked about it.

He is very much pro hemp and Kentucky has always been a big weed producer. Kentucky power brokers want de-classified weed.

So what's up with that? Is congress waiting for this to go through the courts too?
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#312506 - 06/10/19 04:42 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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There is still some concern about young folks smoking weed. But almost nobody thinks us seniors should be forced to abstain if weed helps our ailments. If weed got reclassified even to Class 2, doctors would be able to prescribe it for old folks nationwide, which can help enormously in the effort to decriminalize it. Just about every senior citizen has some sort of health problem that weed can help, if only anxiety, insomnia, or erectile dysfunction.

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#312531 - 06/11/19 04:37 PM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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No tellin' how far I mighta gone if I hadn't started smoking weed as a kid...probably not much further than I went anyway. Some of us just never were meant for greatness.

But yeah, kids probably shouldn't smoke weed or cigarettes or even drink alcohol to any extent until they reach 18.

But if they get their hands on a little it probably won't hurt them.

Cigarettes and alcohol aren't on that class 1 list, but cannabis is.

Cigarettes and alcohol have no medical uses whatsoever and in fact are much more akin to heroin or opiates than cannabis ever was.

This is another of those cases where we need to take a look at the Democratic Party and ask ourselves why we see so little movement on any progressive legislation.
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#312532 - 06/12/19 07:11 AM Re: Roundtable for April 2019 [Re: Greger]
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Stupid prosecutions:

Jury Deadlocks On Charges Against Arizona Border Activist

Anybody who gives an illegal water or food, can be charged with a crime. But they can go to court and claim it was the core of their religion, if they are Christian. Jesus says quite explicitly in Matthew 25, that we are to feed the hungry, etc. So this humanitarian assistance for illegals is the most Christian thing one can do. Jesus even said "You did this for the least of these my brothers, so you did it for me." I would say that's more important than Communion or any other ritual of the Christian church!

Trying to prosecute people for acting on their religious beliefs is doomed, and just might lose Trump some support among people who claim to be Christians.

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