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#311790 - 04/01/19 04:45 PM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: pondering_it_all]
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let's not shoot ourselves in the foot before the race starts.


Anything else would be against the basic tenets of the Democratic Party™

Buttigieg might be the best candidate for the most people.
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#311797 - 04/02/19 04:32 AM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: Greger]
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best candidate


If he's the candidate the most people actually go and vote for, I don't care if he shags sheep. But you know very well there are crusty old folks who have always voted Democratic who might stay home when the GOP starts their billion dollar ad campaign pointing out he is gay. Not every Democrat is as liberal as you and I. We can go for liberal purity and lose or we can find somebody every Democrat will vote for. And don't forget the 35% of the electorate who is Independent.

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#311800 - 04/02/19 05:21 PM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I wonder why most people would vote for him.

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#311801 - 04/02/19 05:52 PM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Mayor Pete raised $7 Million. Kamala Harris $12 Million. Bernie Sanders $17 Million. In the first quarter of this year. Beto probably beat them all.

A gay man, a black woman, and a 76 year old socialist. Crusty old Democrats and supercentrist independents may not get their squeaky clean christian white male to vote for.

But Beto O'Rourke(a squeaky clean white guy)raised $7Million the first day He hasn't released his first quarter numbers yet but I expect them to be impressive. As much as I like the idea of a queer, a Negress, or a geriatric socialist being the next president I'm not looking to "own the cons".
I just want to get the good ole USA back on a more progressive track.

Whoever the primary voters choose is fine by me.
Except Biden. F*ck Joe Biden.
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#311804 - 04/02/19 08:39 PM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: jgw]
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I suspect the first question a voter should ask is; "will this candidate hurt me or mine?" Unless that voter is incredibly ignorant he/she KNOWS that the current dear leader does. That same voter will also know that the choice is stark when it comes to side.

If Jackass goes down whoever wins is going to face some stark realities. Our allies, for instance, no longer trust us. This has to be fixed. Then there will also be a LOT of stuff that is going to be fixed. Then there is the simple fact that there will be little or no money to do the fixes as we will be spending, literally, billions just paying the debt on the 4 trillion added to the national debt. I am speculating but there are also signs that the economy is not exactly in great shape and I have full confidence that Jackass will leave, just as other Republicans have left, a huge economic mess to clean up as well.

Might be wrong - but doubt it.............

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#311808 - 04/03/19 03:24 AM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
A gay man, a black woman, and a 76 year old socialist.

ReTHUGlicons could only wish to be so diverse. coffee
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#311820 - 04/04/19 07:44 PM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: jgw]
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there are also, seemingly, approximately 2 candidates a week stepping up. As the talking heads of tv are constantly telling us - "There are no clear Democratic winners yet and there is along way to go before folks start dropping out". I am personally not for either Bernie or Biden - just too damned old. In other words its waaay too early to start picking the winner.

I suspect that the winners will probably get chosen by media, remember, the same media which choose Jackass! They are still at it, unrelenting with little else than which candidate provides the most viewers to enrich their owners.

Interesting times................

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#311821 - 04/04/19 10:46 PM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: jgw]
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There are no clear Democratic winners yet


Perhaps not...but there are a lot of candidates who will clearly not win.

That makes the race easier to call. TV bobbleheads can't come right out and say candidate x, y, or z is wasting time and money because they stand no chance of being elected. I don't have any such restriction.

There are maybe five candidates in the group with any chance of winning. Current indicators have Bernie in the lead by a good margin, but only because Biden hasn't officially announced. Biden, though he hasn't yet announced, is in second because he can pass Bernie in the early running. I'm ranking Harris third right now with Beto nipping at her heels. For the moment I'm putting Mayor Pete in the number five spot because I love a dark horse, but he may fade early.

All of this may change. Some of it definitely will. I'm still calling for Beto to win and defeat Trump in 2020.
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#311827 - 04/06/19 07:05 PM Re: a presidential candidate [Re: jgw]
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The good thing about all of this is that many are getting airtime. This accomplishes 2 things, first, any airtime not dedicated to Jackass is a good thing! The second thing is that the left gets to state their case to the American public. I just wish more of them would appear on Fox. I think, for instance, that Elizabeth Warren would make a great secretary of treasury or head of the SEC. I don't think she will survive the presidential thing but I do like a lot of the stuff she wants to do.

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