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#311900 - 04/13/19 12:12 PM The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press
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The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press, explained (Vox). “This case raises a number of really thorny questions about what it means to be a journalist.”

I am a huge supporter of the freedom of the press, and, literally, "a card-carrying member of the ACLU," yet, I am cheered by the arrest of Julian Assange and the undertaking of the indictment against him. This article is a really good introduction to the larger debate over Assange, Wikileaks, and the implications of his arrest and the unsealed indictment. I'm curious about where other ranters stand on the issue. What say ye?


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#311901 - 04/13/19 02:56 PM Re: The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press [Re: NW Ponderer]
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My take on Julian Assange is that he's an assh*le.
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#311904 - 04/13/19 04:48 PM Re: The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press [Re: NW Ponderer]
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According to reporting on cable, the Assange extradition charges has nothing to do with 1st Amendment issues, so the issue is moot.

His extradition has everything to do with conspiracy to break computer hacking laws. I hope you are not going to argue that 1st Amendment issues involving classified materials are predicated on defending unlawful activities or the laws involved should be repealed or etc.

While I am an ardent believer in governmental transparency (an extremist), I am also a believer in upholding current laws even if I believe they are not good laws. Allow the government to make its case and allow Assange an opportunity to defend his actions regarding the charges.

I don't see 1st Amendment, even if it was the publication of classified materials which precipitated an investigation into acquisition of said materials.
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#311905 - 04/13/19 06:22 PM Re: The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press [Re: NW Ponderer]
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He is not a Journalist, he ran a site that does not write articles, research those articles and provides supporting documentation for the article(s). The site just selectively posts whatever information was given them. Wikileaks does not perform a journalistic function like say the Washington Post or the Sacramento Bee or (GOD FORGIVE ME!) Breitbart News Network. So prosecute away popcorn2
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#311906 - 04/14/19 07:19 PM Re: The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press [Re: NW Ponderer]
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It's interesting that the only charge is trying to break a password for Manning. I suspect prosecutors know any random jury will nullify and find him innocent of espionage, etc. charges. The norm has been that they don't add charges after extraditing somebody, so other countries don't resist. But of course, this administration is anything but normal.

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#311953 - 04/18/19 12:36 PM Re: The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I will always appreciate Assange's work in exposing the brutality and inhumanity of our military/politics.
I remember the video of the Iraqi civilian vehicle and it's occupants getting lit up from an american helicopter which proceeded to circle from above.
When the very human act Iraqi strangers coming to the vehicle occupants aid, they too, were lit up.
All Hi def, taxpayer financed execution of civilians that no major corporate owned 'news' network showed.
Wasn't Assange the darling of Liberals when he was making things difficult for the Busch administration?

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#311958 - 04/18/19 04:29 PM Re: The debate over what Julian Assange’s arrest means for freedom of the press [Re: chunkstyle]
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I expect that in the fullness of time Assange will walk free. His self-imposed incarceration in London did little for his case but it appears most of the charges against him are trumped up with the aim of silencing him.

If he was less of a self absorbed assh*le he'd have faced this stuff and beaten it years ago.
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