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#312042 - 04/25/19 03:27 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
...I think we are screwing up if we are not teaching both to both sexes...

I came of age during the Title IX Era. Boys HAD to have one quarter of HomeEc. Girls HAD to have one quarter of Shop.

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#312043 - 04/25/19 05:43 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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I was pretty much self-taught on cooking. My parents cooked and I watched and learned. They were surprised to discover I had made myself french toast for breakfast one day when my classes started well after they both left for work. I just told them it was no big deal because I'd seen them do it. So I cooked my own breakfast from age 10 or so. I was very good at reading and they had a Betty Crocker cookbook.

But as far as school, I'm older than Title IX: So no Home Ec for me but shop classes out the wazoo.

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#312046 - 04/25/19 03:22 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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Since we seem to be exposing parts of our upbringing. I was taught to cook, sew, knit, crochet, darn, do laundry (machine and by hand) iron and so on by my mother. From my step-father, use of tools, and building things; nothing fancy, but yearly Christmas platforms and trains. The military taught me how to clean and love of country. School held not Home Economics classes for us boys, but I did have three years of Print Shop and Astronomy Classes and was a member of the Astronomy Club, the HS had its own Planetarium. Social Science taught me how to write a check, balance a checkbook, read financial statements and invest in and track stocks and how to be a good citizen. And after school, the NRA (decades before they went ape sh*t) taught me how to shoot, gun safety and the responsibilities of gun ownership. Oh, yea, in case you have not noticed, I did miserably in English.


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#312055 - 04/26/19 06:15 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I was pretty much self-taught on cooking. My parents cooked and I watched and learned. They were surprised to discover I had made myself french toast for breakfast one day when my classes started well after they both left for work. I just told them it was no big deal because I'd seen them do it. So I cooked my own breakfast from age 10 or so. I was very good at reading and they had a Betty Crocker cookbook.

But as far as school, I'm older than Title IX: So no Home Ec for me but shop classes out the wazoo.
I HAD to cook before school, or else I got to eat my mom's cooking. Loved her dearly, but, um... she wasn't talented in the kitchen. (Thank god for Hamburger Helper!) I learned a lot about cooking in the Boy Scouts, and other life lessons, but I really learned the details when I was in college. It turns out my dad was an excellent cook, but he wouldn't do it at home because that was "women's work." (A different generation.) I did, however, learn sewing and darning socks (who does that anymore?) from my mom, as well as balancing a checkbook. Typing was a class in school. My sons both got "modern living" classes in school that taught living basics like banking, cooking, etc.
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#312056 - 04/26/19 08:32 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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Back on topic:

Psychiatrists Say Mueller Report Offers More Proof Of Trump’s Mental Decline

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Trying to fire Mueller despite the clear downside shows the president can’t rationally process risk, a new study states.

The claim that the Mueller Report documents several instances when Trump tried to fire Mueller with no thought to the dangerous consequences. This inability to see consequences and plan ahead is typical of people with Alzheimer's Disease. They do not attempt to diagnose, but they want an expert evaluation. The White House referred them to Gina Loudon:

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(Loudon, who calls herself “Dr. Gina,” is not a psychiatrist or a psychologist, but rather a conservative radio and television personality with a doctorate in “human and organization systems” from an online college. She is, however, a vocal Trump supporter whose book the president promoted in a tweet last year.)

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#312058 - 04/27/19 02:19 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I HAD to cook before school, or else I got to eat my mom's cooking. Loved her dearly, but, um... she wasn't talented in the kitchen.odern living" classes in school that taught living basics like banking, cooking, etc.

For whatever reason, my mom thought it a great idea to start baking bread instead of buying the store stuff when I was in 6th grade. It was the most gawd-awful stuff ever. I couldn't even trade my lunch because my mom's bread eventually earned a bad reputation at a school too.

One day, a lady from the Office came to our classroom and asked: "Who wants to work in the cafeteria? You'll earn a free lunch for about 15mins of work."

I worked in the school cafeteria every day for 15-20mins for a free lunch from the rest of 6th grade to 12th grade. The Cafeteria ladies always hooked us school workers up, big time. smile

Because of THAT job, is actually the reason why I got a BS Degree in Nutrition. I wanted to be a Food Service Director for a school district. The highest I ever got was Buyer and Menu Planner. The problem was, I'm an X'er and there were too many Boomers hogging-up the good jobs, like Food Service Director.

...and now you know, the rest of the story. laugh
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#312059 - 04/27/19 04:35 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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I worked in the school cafeteria in junior high myself. But all I ever got to do was run the industrial dishwasher. Not very inspiring.

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#312061 - 04/27/19 12:46 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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In middle school, I was a cashier, or I ran the juice/milk cart. We rotated positions. In High School, I worked the snack shack. Back then Hostess Fruit Pies (Apple or Cherry) and Carnation Ice Cream Sandwich Bars were the big sellers. smile

We also sold juice, milk, and cookies.
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#312065 - 04/27/19 02:11 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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I cannot disagree. This rant is 100% spot-on. Hmm


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#312073 - 04/27/19 11:36 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: pondering_it_all]
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This inability to see consequences and plan ahead is typical of people with Alzheimer's Disease

OK ... I can't stand this.

It seems that everyone believes Mr Trump is a rational human person and then analyze him from that perspective. Come on folks!!!! He is a narcissist. He has been a narcissist all of his life, unless anyone thinks a person with Alzheimer's can present at an early age.

Occam ... remember Occam

No assumptions have to be made ... just a thoughtful analysis of his life time actions ... the conclusion should be .... he has NPD which should not be so unbelievable as it explains his actions without resorting to assuming he is rational and then trying to conclude degrading etc.

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