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#312044 - 04/25/19 03:01 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: jgw]
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Originally Posted By: jgw
What happens if the Dems stop preaching to the choir and start preaching to the other side (going on Fox when they can, etc), mention little things like Trump destroying everybody's health insurance, shutting down medicaid and medicare, threatening war with anybody he doesn't like (long list there), privatizing public education, privatizing the VA, etc?

This is probably a rhetorical question as its unlikely to happen real soon...........


Still crickets from you JGW?

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#312045 - 04/25/19 03:03 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Welp, it's official. Lunchbox Joe is tan, rested and ready to take on the mythical school yard bully and restore the liberal order so many pine and yearn for.
The best quote I've heard is 'watch his campaign melt like a sandcastle in a p!ss storm..'

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#312047 - 04/25/19 08:18 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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'watch his campaign melt like a sandcastle in a p!ss storm..


Yeah, he's in for some disappointment I think. Getting into the race will make his future speaking career a little more lucrative though. And maybe a book deal...
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#312048 - 04/25/19 09:02 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger

Any one of the Democratic candidates would do a fine job as president.
It's gonna be tough putting government back together back together because Trump has simply not bothered to fill empty positions, entire departments go without leadership or workforce. Internal government infrastructure is collapsing brick by brick because Trump just can't be bothered. He's busy looking at porn on his goddam phone and has no time for it.
Normally a president would steer the ship of state to the right or left, Trump sawed off the rudder and went to bugger the cabin boy.



ThumbsUp Bow (APPLAUSE)

And that cabin boy is Stephen Miller! eek2
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#312049 - 04/26/19 12:48 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I thought that was what Trump was “supposed" to do. Break the gubbmint so to speak.

Perhaps the unfilled positions were by design and not just his incompetence.
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#312052 - 04/26/19 11:35 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Any one of the Democratic candidates would do a fine job as president.

I saw a recent poll where ANY of the 2020 Dem Candidates would be Trump smile

(except Hillary Clinton who's not running. Hmm )
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#312070 - 04/27/19 10:18 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I can only admire the belief that the Dems can take out Jackass in 2020. If he can hold onto this economy the Dems better look out. We are talking JOBS! Its really not important whether the Dems will wreck the economy - its not theirs anyway. Anything they say won't count. Historically this is what happens when 1 party has a great economy and Trump has one, right now.

I think he will crash it sometime next year. The debt alone will help in that one. We must sell our bonds and with the debt starting to get as big as our entire gross national product (gnp) we will have to increase the interest to keep up sales. That interest alone will seriously inflict damage on most Dem promises (any everybody else too).

We will, of course, know all in the fullness of time (love that phrase)

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#312071 - 04/27/19 10:46 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I don't know about a great economy for Trump's base: Coal miners are still SOL, unless they did what Hillary suggested and trained for something else. Manufacturing workers are in bad shape and the steel and aluminum tariffs are just going to make it worse. Farmers have gone bankrupt again because of the tariffs.

I think the "good economy" is limited to business owners and rich people. Employees who still have a job have seen no tax break. Retirees saw a Social Security increase but a Medicare increase that gobbled it up.

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#312072 - 04/27/19 11:16 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: jgw]
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I think he will crash it sometime next year.


Trump isn't keeping the economy rolling. The economy is keeping him rolling. It won't take much to upset the applecart. I'd rather see a scary hiccup in the economy than an actual tsunamai of sadness.
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#312086 - 04/30/19 05:16 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: Greger
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I think he will crash it sometime next year.


Trump isn't keeping the economy rolling. The economy is keeping him rolling. It won't take much to upset the applecart. I'd rather see a scary hiccup in the economy than an actual tsunamai of sadness.


This weekend Biden stumped about the fallacy of our so called great economy. If you're in the upper middle class or the one percent, yeah sure, it's great. Everyone else, not so much.

"The stock market is roaring, but you don't feel it.
You got a two trillion dollar tax cut, did you feel it?"

7:44 mark in the video clip

Even libertarian think tanks are noticing the thin veneer that allows Trump to get away with crowing about a roaring economy. They are noticing how paper thin it is and how dangerous it is to crow too much.

Former American Enterprise Institute president Arthur Brooks sounds like a changed man.
Is it possible for libertarianism to show a center left form of compassion?
Arthur Brooks seems to think so.

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