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#312074 - 04/28/19 01:56 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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There is no reason he can't have both. His father had Alzheimer's Disease and if you look at Trump's old interview videos, he used to be much more articulate and had a normal vocabulary. Now he substitutes words (oranges for origins), makes up new words like "bigly" (typical of people who have forgotten a word) and has the vocabulary of an elementary school student. He also seems to have some short term memory problems, which manifest as saying one thing and then reversing himself the next day. Then claiming he never made the first statement. He does have psychological problems, but I suspect there's something going on in his brain and it seems to be getting worse. Somebody competent in such matters needs to have a look.

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#312077 - 04/28/19 03:26 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
He does have psychological problems, but I suspect there's something going on in his brain and it seems to be getting worse. Somebody competent in such matters needs to have a look.


Well, go and have that look but please, keep letting him gorge on KFC and McDonald's, as much as he wants. Maybe nature will just take its course and he'll vapor lock and just make those spastic gestures and babble like he did on the campaign trail, but because he can no longer do otherwise.


Then they'll have to 25A his dumb ass.
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#312078 - 04/30/19 12:13 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I have the same suspicion about his mental state. However, memory loss is not altzeimers. It can be part of that but is not even really indicative. I, for instance, have memory problems and taht's a fact. However, I have been told, by a neurologist that specializes in such that I am not a candidate for altzeimers. My that too had serious memory loss which his wife thought was altzeimer. I sent them both up to Virginia Mason - neither had Altzeimer's.

However, serious memory problems are SERIOUS! You can forget little stuff like your name, where you are at, who you are, etc. You don't have to act out to have memory loss.

Anyway, just saying, one is not necessarily the other. On reflection I don't think you said that either but some might not understand.

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#312081 - 04/30/19 05:10 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
There is no reason he can't have both. His father had Alzheimer's Disease and if you look at Trump's old interview videos, he used to be much more articulate and had a normal vocabulary. Now he substitutes words (oranges for origins), makes up new words like "bigly" (typical of people who have forgotten a word) and has the vocabulary of an elementary school student. He also seems to have some short term memory problems, which manifest as saying one thing and then reversing himself the next day. Then claiming he never made the first statement. He does have psychological problems, but I suspect there's something going on in his brain and it seems to be getting worse. Somebody competent in such matters needs to have a look.


Trump needs to be put on a time-out until we can figure this thing out. smile
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#312082 - 04/30/19 05:12 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: jgw]
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Originally Posted By: jgw
I have the same suspicion about his mental state. However, memory loss is not altzeimers. It can be part of that but is not even really indicative. I, for instance, have memory problems and taht's a fact. However, I have been told, by a neurologist that specializes in such that I am not a candidate for altzeimers. My that too had serious memory loss which his wife thought was altzeimer. I sent them both up to Virginia Mason - neither had Altzeimer's.

However, serious memory problems are SERIOUS! You can forget little stuff like your name, where you are at, who you are, etc. You don't have to act out to have memory loss.

Anyway, just saying, one is not necessarily the other. On reflection I don't think you said that either but some might not understand.


Stage 3 syphilis. Hmm , coffee
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#312084 - 04/30/19 04:50 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Stage 3 syphilis. Hmm , coffee


Rick,
I seriously doubt you are afflicted with that but you are afflicted with being over your Rant Private Message limit and I need to get in touch with you. smile I am forced to reach out to you here.

Please contact me.
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#312088 - 04/30/19 06:08 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: jgw]
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I agree he may be suffering from early stages of dementia. I don't want to make light of it but I don't think that is the major explanation for his actions and words. NPD has been the primary animus for most if not all of his words and actions. This personality disorder may be adversely influenced by dementia and in fact it may exacerbate his NPD because of associated symptoms of paranoia and delusions not associated with NPD. Already he threatens his real political enemies. but I can not imagine what he would do if he is threatened by imaginary enemies or sees imaginary threats from foreign powers.

Scary
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#312090 - 04/30/19 08:39 PM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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I also think that Jackass believes everything he says, even if he changes his mind, has two conflicting claims, he believes it when he says it. I think the best thing about the whole thing is to listen to true believers "explain' this whole thing. Talk about personal fantasies!

Jackass deals in, and believes, different realities - his explainers, however, deal with single lies, not the fact, for instance, that he stood on three sides of whatever in about 3 minutes.

I rarely, anymore, pay any attention to him as it rarely makes any sense.

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#312093 - 05/01/19 06:07 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: rporter314]
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I can not imagine what he would do if he is threatened by imaginary enemies

It's pretty obvious he already does. His comments and actions toward Central American refugees is chock full of fears of "the other". He does use that kind of fear to manipulate his followers, but I get the feeling it is not 100% cynical: He really does fear MS-13 is going to infiltrate the US. (Despite the fact that MS-13 originated in the US!)
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#312094 - 05/01/19 06:20 AM Re: The Mueller Report [Re: Greger]
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I see Mueller is pissed:

Mueller Told William Barr He Mischaracterized His Findings

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Mueller complained to Barr that his four-page letter “did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance,” of the special counsel report, according to the Post.

“There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations,” Mueller wrote in a March 27 letter, the Post said.


I think Barr implied that Mueller was on board because it was reported that Mueller was working with Barr on the redactions. No wonder Barr is pissing his pants over his House testimony. His testimony and Mueller's are likely to be quite different!

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