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#312160 - 05/07/19 06:53 PM end is nigh
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My wife and I were talking the other day and bemoaning the climate change thing. Then we moved on to the general state of our ecology. After a bit we agreed that, within 50 years, there is going to be terrible problems.

Take immigration, for instance. If you think that we have a problem now, just wait. There is some evidence that much of what we are seeing, right now, is due to an ongoing drought in Latin America. This is happening in the very countries said to be contributing to the current southern border countries. Within the next 50 years what we see now will be considered the proverbial drop in the bucket. Between Climate change and ecological failure, across the board, masses of people are going to be searching for survival worldwide. Its probable that there are not going to be all that many places to actually survive in and, given how we are, right now, killing off most of the insect population whilst poisoning our food supply sources, its unlikely that the United States is going to be one of those survival places. I am suggesting that Americans will be trying to move to countries that were not quite so cavalier with resources. Oh, we are also being told that animals living in oceans are all also now at risk of extinction. I are also being told that humanity, right now, is dumping something like 500 tons of bad into our oceans every freaking day! Yep, in about 50 years its gonna be 'interesting'.

I was thinking about curses and what would happen if they worked. I do know, that in about 50 years, the current generation will be cursed by just about everybody as well. What amazes me is that nobody seems to really give a damn (I know, them crazy environmentalists are talking about it but they are being drowned out by them that don't give a damn). Once it really starts up, we are told, there will be nothing that can stop it.

On the bright side human population is halving itself approximately every 50 years due to fertility loss so there aren't gonna be all that many humans left. (world growth rate has been in minus column since the 1960's) Throw in our obvious dedication to war, and destroying each other, one can only assume that too will reduce humanity on earth.

I just thought I would bring a little entertainment to your world.............

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#312167 - 05/08/19 06:48 AM Re: end is nigh [Re: jgw]
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We just hit eight billion souls, so how are we halving our growth?
World growth rate in the minus column? I'm searching but not seeing any minuses.
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#312170 - 05/08/19 05:36 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: jgw]
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World population growth rate and birth rates are steadily decreasing. That doesn't mean things are not increasing but that the increase is beginning to go down. The United States birth rate, right now, is barely up to replacing and, without immigrants we would be in trouble. As 3rd world gets better their birth rates too tend to get less. I have been told that happens when folks no longer need as many children as possible to care for them when they get old (may or may not be true) You can google all this stuff. Here is an example:

https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth

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#312177 - 05/09/19 03:17 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: jgw]
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Maybe birth rates go down when more women's rights are recognized?

Maybe birth rates should have started tumbling a century ago...
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#312179 - 05/09/19 03:34 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: jgw]
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Maybe space aliens have contaminated drinking water globally with saltpeter?
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#312180 - 05/09/19 05:01 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: jgw]
jgw Offline
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Maybe raising children has become more of a burden than a joy. I know several women who absolutely are not interested in ever becoming pregnant. There is, I suspect, a genuine shift in how this stuff is being dealt with. The poor, for instance, have a higher birth rate than those who are not. Kinda like marriage. Marriage, it seems, is no longer even considered by many. Folks just live together until they don't anymore. How does it it go? Something like; "things are a chang'in"?

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#312183 - 05/09/19 05:28 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: Greger]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: Greger
Maybe birth rates go down when more women's rights are recognized?

Maybe birth rates should have started tumbling a century ago...



Nope, history shows that the sex is better in matriarchal societies, societies where some form of equality is acknowledged.
The downward trend in sex is directly due to the despair quotient.
Stressed out depressed people don't want to get frisky.
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#312188 - 05/10/19 05:20 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The downward trend in sex is directly due to the despair quotient.


Explain to me why birth rates are so high in extremely poor, third world nations where despair and starvation are a way of life? I submit that, without rights, women are chattel and used for sex without regard for pregnancy. Because men are assh*les.

You, on the other hand submit that the United States and other wealthy nations have declining birthrates because people are so miserable they don't have sex? Wealth really sucks, eh?

Once you give women control over their bodies and their pregnancies(and their lives) you immediately see declines in birth rates...
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#312189 - 05/10/19 05:29 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: Greger]
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What "matriarchal" societies....?

Perhaps the mythical isle of Lesbos?

There are no matriarchal societies and never have been. Perhaps a few tribes and villages here and there but, beyond that, men have never allowed women to dominate.(except in our wildest fantasies.......)
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#312190 - 05/10/19 05:46 PM Re: end is nigh [Re: jgw]
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The "end" probably is nigh though. Billions are going to die soon as sea levels rise and the climate gets warmer. Crops will fail worldwide. Global shipping will cease as we know it as port cities are inundated. Worldwide food supplies depend on weather and rapid shipping. The United States can't even get it together to help Puerto Rico recover from a storm....we're doomed.
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