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#312316 - 05/22/19 04:52 PM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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Oh, watching news last night. The house Dem announced, yesterday, that their plan is to hold a meeting today to decide what they are going to do next. One would think that after weeks of Republican obstruction that its time to get off the dime. This was according to Nadler who was, again, whining about Trump but doing exactly nothing. Even the left leaning talking heads are getting tired of consistent Democratic whining instead of actually doing something. The constitution, for instance, in reference to tax reports says that the treasury SHALL turn them loose. No court, no nuth'n. If it doesn't happen send in the sergeant of arms, with a couple capital cops and throw the miscreant in jail. If they are doing something that requires to be decided in the courts then get it into the damned courts, stop talking about it and do it! Instead they continue to use the 'Hillary Way', ie. don't upset the enemy, don't fight back much, let the enemy win. I think they forget that the Republicans ARE the enemy! They are the ones who have made that very, very, clear.

Just something else I just don't get............


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#312324 - 05/23/19 07:08 AM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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Two different federal courts have now sent Trump's guys packing. They can appeal, but the appeals courts are unlikely to intervene, since Trump's lawsuit claims are so ridiculous. Then they can appeal to the Supreme Court, but they have a lot of precedent about the investigative powers of Congress.

How ridiculous are they? The judge today (Trump's accountant case) refused to stay his ruling because Trump is so unlikely to prevail on appeal.

Also today, the New York Assembly voted to tell the state tax authority to turn over anybody's tax records to Congressional committees on request. The governor has said he would sign the bill. So Mnuchin can go F... himself. I think those House committees are gonna have it all quite soon.

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#312326 - 05/23/19 01:26 PM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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Did you see where Mnuchin refused to answer a direct YES or NO question three times?

Or where Ben Carson confused real estate REO's with OREO cookies?
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#312333 - 05/23/19 05:56 PM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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After that decision the house should have sent out the Sergeant at Arms, 2 capital police, arrested him, threw him in jail (oh, I am sure they can use the jail of Washington DC) and charged him 25,000.00 a day until he released the returns. Its no longer about the returns and a lot about the congress of the United States taking back the power that the constitution gives them that they have been giving away. They should not have even bothered having the man testify - just more time wasting on blather.

This morning I was watching CNN. The banner below the picture said something like; "The house is giving (whoever) another week to respond thereby giving the White House attorneys time to create their response". This seems about right. They forgot to mention the waste of time and effort, on the part of the house. The kindly, sensitive, Democratic nonsense just gotta stop!

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#312336 - 05/23/19 06:21 PM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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Apparently, when White House attorneys do "create their response" it's so full of crap they get laughed out of court. They just don't have a case. All they are doing is wasting the court's time with frivolous law suits. The courts should declare them "vexatious litigants" and throw out any suit they file.

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#312346 - 05/24/19 09:55 PM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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I continue to assume that the congress (house) has certain rights and responsibilities which are constantly being referred to by this Dem or that. They also think that they can do stuff like indicting people who lie, ignore subpoenas, etc There is also a congressional power to create a tribunal to determine constitutional stuff which can be passed directly to the supremes, they also have the right to indict on felonies. I suspect there may be more stuff and I sure can't claim any expertise but in reading about it this stuff is possible.

I simply cannot believe that talking everything to death is going to get anything done. The house has, in theory 20 different committees working on investigations. So far, as far as I can tell two of them are doing something although even that is questionable. All the rest are very quiet about what they are doing.

I guess its all about perception (as it always has been). The Dems are incredibly bad at managing perceptions, unlike the Repubicans who understands how important it is. Perhaps they should take some of their campaign millions and hire experts in the field? Its kinda like house legislation. They have something like 249 pieces of legislation yet nobody even bothers to mention it. As far as anybody knows they love to talk stuff to death, threaten and condemn but nothing seems to get done (well, there are those 249 pieces of legislation).

I think Pelosi is awaiting an investigation which can seriously damage Trump before moving forward. I am no longer convinced this is ever going to happen. I am beginning to believe that Trump could actually shoot somebody in public and walk. I do know he has Republicans in congress terrified he will 'primary' them (put up a candidate to run against anybody in congress that doesn't do his will). I find it very strange. Apparently the Republican elected feel they need their jobs more than actually doing their jobs.

Sorry - too much blather I think..............

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#312348 - 05/24/19 10:15 PM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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The problem seems to be that Trump is not actually guilty of any crimes.
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#312353 - 05/25/19 04:41 AM Re: congress and the administration [Re: Greger]
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Oh, he's guilty alright. He just can't be charged while President for any federal crimes. Funny thing though: The state of New York is not bound at all by that Justice Department opinion. They CAN indict him for any state crime, and there's quite a list. I would say as soon as Congress gets the loan information from Trump's accountant and the banks, the state files tax and bank fraud charges.

Then there's all the federal crimes he will be charged with as soon as he leaves office. Like the many many instances of Obstruction of Justice notwithstanding AG Barr's opinion of His Divine Immunity.

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#312357 - 05/25/19 06:32 PM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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One can only hope...............

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#312414 - 06/01/19 10:00 AM Re: congress and the administration [Re: jgw]
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Deutsche Bank turns over records on Donald Trump's business

House committees are getting Trump's financial records from Deutsche Bank.

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Waters has long questioned the bank’s relationship with Trump and their willingness to lend to him despite his financial woes and record of falsifying his wealth. Earlier this month, the New York Times reported that Deutsche Bank officials saw Trump as a “risky” client and knew he had greatly inflated his wealth in loan applications. The bank suffered “deep losses” lending to Trump but continued to extend him hundreds of millions in credit, even after he defaulted on a $640 million loan and sued the bank.

In 2017, Deutsche Bank was fined $630 million by the Justice Department for laundering money out of Russia.

Trump’s relationship with the bank has also caught the eye of New York Attorney General Letitia James, who issued a subpoena to Deutsche Bank earlier this month for records related to its financing of four Trump Organization projects, as well as failed effort to buy the NFL’s Buffalo Bills, according to the New York Times.


Another shoe drops.

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