Current Topics
Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Died
by logtroll
0 seconds ago
Do both sides really do it?
by pdx rick
17 minutes 32 seconds ago
Bloomberg raises $16M to pay fines of 32K former felons so they can vote
by pdx rick
44 minutes 19 seconds ago
How much do police really cost?
by jgw
Today at 08:35 PM
Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
by rporter314
Today at 03:59 PM
RoundTable for Summer 2020
by logtroll
Today at 12:52 PM
Portland. A Turning Point?
by pdx rick
Yesterday at 12:22 PM
The Republican Platform
by pondering_it_all
09/22/20 09:22 PM
Global warming predictions
by pondering_it_all
09/20/20 09:04 PM
Half of troops have an unfavorable opinion of President Bone Spurs
by CPWILL
09/20/20 07:42 AM
West Coast Burning
by NW Ponderer
09/19/20 06:57 PM
Bob Woodward's book details Trump's chaotic and dysfunctional White House
by Greger
09/19/20 06:57 PM
Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century?
by pondering_it_all
09/18/20 05:18 AM
The Boogaloo Bois
by pondering_it_all
09/17/20 08:17 AM
How the world sees U.S. and Trump
by jgw
09/16/20 09:01 PM
The Trump campaign is broke
by pdx rick
09/15/20 12:20 PM
Barr is acting as ‘personal henchman’ of Trump
by Greger
09/13/20 09:33 PM
Covid Long Haulers
by jgw
09/07/20 06:23 PM
A post, on facebook, by my granddaughter that covers it all pretty good!
by pondering_it_all
09/02/20 07:27 PM
The Democratic Fight
by jgw
09/02/20 06:09 PM
Forum Stats
6292 Members
60 Forums
16997 Topics
302943 Posts

Max Online: 294 @ 12/06/17 12:57 AM
Google Adsense
Page 4 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#314448 - 08/29/19 04:55 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Senator Hatrack]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 15728
Loc: Whittier, California
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision. A better written decision would have made it more difficult to overturn it. If the Supreme Court does decide to reconsider Roe v. Wade it might deliver a better written decision that keeps abortion legal. For the record my position on abortion is that it is a decision for a woman to make. The only time I have a voice in that decision is I am the father. At my age that is highly unlikely to happen.


Yes, it might deliver a better written decision that keeps it legal.
Or not. But the one thing that will not happen if Roe is overturned, is cessation of abortions. That is guaranteed to not ever happen.
_________________________
"The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals" DVD
deepfreezefilms.com

Top
#314461 - 08/29/19 04:37 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
Greger Offline


Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 11/24/06
Posts: 17285
Loc: Florida
Quote:
the one thing that will not happen if Roe is overturned, is cessation of abortions.


Making things illegal or unavailable legally doesn't make them go away. Nobody on this planet thinks abortion is a good thing, but only a fool would think you could stop them.

The very same people who have made an unwanted pregnancy into a life destroying ordeal(Christians, Republicans, and other fanatics) are the ones who want to turn abortion into a life destroying ordeal instead of a simple medical procedure.

Perhaps it's too forward thinking, but maybe when there is an issue such as this it should be put to a vote, put on the ballot and settled.
_________________________
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...

Top
#314463 - 08/29/19 07:19 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
jgw Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 05/22/06
Posts: 3611
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
I actually think the entire 'debate' is crazy. The right to lifers insist the pregancy comes to term. Then they cleverly walk away from everything as their job is done. I you travel in latin America you will notice that there are a LOT of abandoned children around. Goto Brazil and they beg at every outdoor table whilst you eat, etc. This is the result of the Catholic church doing its duty and making sure every child gets to term before they just abandon them.

My point is, basically, that what they are actually doing is making sure we have lots of unwanted children. There is some evidence that legal abortion has actually contributed to a lessening of crime. Seems that unwanted children have serious problems. I have often wondered what would happen if there was a law that any child produced that was unwanted was taken by the right to life folks which would support, love, feed and educate said unwanted child through college. I suspect I would have a slightly different thought about Right to Life folk. I also know they are certainly not going to do that as that would interfere with their important stuff.

Top
#314471 - 08/30/19 05:58 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
pondering_it_all Offline
veteran

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 10359
Loc: North San Diego County
What would all the pedophiles and child pornographers do if there were no unwanted/abandoned children for them to prey on?

Top
#314476 - 08/30/19 08:47 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
pdx rick Offline
Member
CHB-OG

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 43304
Loc: Puget Sound, WA
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision.

The Conservative majority that wrote that decision in 1973 wrote a poorly written one? gobsmacked
_________________________
Contrarian, extraordinaire



Top
#314605 - 09/01/19 08:02 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: pdx rick]
Senator Hatrack Offline
member

Registered: 08/14/07
Posts: 1655
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision.

The Conservative majority that wrote that decision in 1973 wrote a poorly written one? gobsmacked
Just because the Burger Court was Conservative does not mean they were not human and incapable of making mistakes.
_________________________
The state can never straighten the crooked timber of humanity.
I'm a conservative because I question authority.
Conservative Revolutionary

Top
#314611 - 09/01/19 08:12 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Senator Hatrack]
pdx rick Offline
Member
CHB-OG

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 43304
Loc: Puget Sound, WA
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision.

The Conservative majority that wrote that decision in 1973 wrote a poorly written one? gobsmacked
Just because the Burger Court was Conservative does not mean they were not human and incapable of making mistakes.

You wrote it, not me. smile
_________________________
Contrarian, extraordinaire



Top
#314936 - 09/05/19 11:25 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: pdx rick]
Senator Hatrack Offline
member

Registered: 08/14/07
Posts: 1655
Everyone makes mistakes. I only make one a day, when I get out of bed.
smile
_________________________
The state can never straighten the crooked timber of humanity.
I'm a conservative because I question authority.
Conservative Revolutionary

Top
#315075 - 09/08/19 06:12 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
SnarkyPolitics Offline
stranger

Registered: 12/20/15
Posts: 15
Conservative because you QUESTION authority...??

More like you crave an authoritarian above you, as a Conservative...
_________________________
David's Snarky Politics Place

http://www.facebook.com/SnarkyPolitics

Top
#315076 - 09/08/19 10:21 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
Ujest Shurly Offline
journeyman

Registered: 10/16/16
Posts: 663
Loc: Sterling Heights, MI, USA
Well hello Snarky_Politics, welcome to the rant.
_________________________
Vote 2020!

Life is like a PB&J sandwich. The older you get, the moldery and crustier you get.

Now, get off my grass!

Top
Page 4 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 >

Who's Online
1 registered (1 invisible), 41 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Superfly, GreatNewsTonight, danarhea, RoughDraft274, CPWILL
6292 Registered Users
A2