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#312613 - 06/18/19 10:16 PM War with Iran
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I figured this was coming when Trump signed John Bolten onto the team. As I mentioned elsewhere, the implications are frightening.

What they're doing right now appears to be market research, checking out how it sits with the base and to get the FOX News feedback loop going.

As far as I know the US no longer has any allies...but we can go it alone...it'll be a cakewalk...

Media loves war.

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#312614 - 06/18/19 10:54 PM Re: War with Iran [Re: Gregor]
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NSA Adv Bolton and Sec Pompeo want Iran to surrender to Israel.

If anyone thinks something different is going on ... I would like to read that theory.
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#312616 - 06/19/19 12:11 PM Re: War with Iran [Re: Gregor]
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#312617 - 06/19/19 02:41 PM Re: War with Iran [Re: Gregor]
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For the narcissist, Mr Trump, everything is on the table. What makes him believe he is the greatest person to have ever lived? High ratings. Imagine not just the bellicose bellowing of chief bloviator but an actual conflict. Would he be the center of attention? Would every eye not just in America but the world be on him? Don't imagine this lightly.
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#312618 - 06/19/19 05:44 PM Re: War with Iran [Re: rporter314]
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Yes, this is just the spice Trump needs to get re-elected.

I think it's gonna backfire. Because eventually something has to.

Iran has the wherewithal to sink a US aircraft carrier with 5000 lives aboard. And most likely be justified in doing it after some sort of unprovoked attack by US forces.

One way or another this could be the beginning of the end, it could be the end of us all or it could be the end of Trump.


Another reason to hold off on impeachment...we might need it after 2020 and it's not a trigger you can pull every time you get a little butthurt.

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#312619 - 06/19/19 06:30 PM Re: War with Iran [Re: Gregor]
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I don't have a feeling for which way this is going to go, but someone the other night said something worth consideration. They said Iran is not sophisticated enough to understand how to deal with Mr Trump. Think about that. Russians, Japanese, Chinese, North Koreans, and Israelis know how to manipulate Mr Trump. The Iranians living outside the global bubble may still be thinking a la 1980. This may not end well, but if someone with some sense were to approach Iran and persuade them to hold off for a couple of years, we may see a temporizing peaceable resolution to at least one implacable ME problem.
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#312621 - 06/19/19 07:22 PM Re: War with Iran [Re: Kaine]
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Nor has any president been elected that has been impeached and censured.

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#312629 - 06/20/19 10:25 PM Re: War with Iran [Re: Gregor]
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I suspect the current claims of the US are fallacious. The maritime laws are very complex in the region and Iran's claims may just be justified.

I also suspect Bolton and Sec Pompeo are looking for casus belli in their delusional pursuit of destroying Iran for the interests of Israel, SA or America.

Nothing good will come of this.
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#312630 - 06/21/19 05:39 AM Re: War with Iran [Re: Gregor]
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Originally Posted By: Gregor
...What they're doing right now appears to be market research, checking out how it sits with the base and to get the FOX News feedback loop going...

Hannity wants war, Carlson doesn't. The way Laura leans will be the deciding factor. coffee
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#312631 - 06/21/19 05:40 AM Re: War with Iran [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
...Sec Pompeo are looking for casus belli in their delusional pursuit of destroying Iran...

Pompeo is a nutty Evangelical who is trying to get Armageddon going.
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