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#312789 - 07/07/19 10:46 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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He was erudite and charming. My disillusionment began with the banking program. For years it was to easy to play reactionary politics and defend him from bigots and zealots but there were uneasy signs during his administration.
Time and distance for some perspective about his performance in the kitchen have only turned me off to his presidency more. Some of his cabinet choices proved themselves to be real tools. Geitner comes to mind.

He did bail out Detroit so there is that. No small thing at the time.

Has anyone noticed how much attention NewsCorp is paying to Biden and Harris, not so much to the second place candidate?

I can see Kamala getting the party nod. She's like a Hillary 2.0 for libs.

She's a women! She's tough on poor people! She's a minority! She's fiscally conservative!

She seemed deferential to Sanders during the debates, as most of the candidates now are considering how far the party has had to shift the conversation to his platform.

I think the Frat boys and girls are playing an inside long game on the Sanders threat. I can't see how it won't get decided by super delegates in a second round of voting at the convention with, what is it 72 candidates running? Some on little more than a few billionaires' money.
So if blue dog Joe hangs tough to the convention I could see things getting interesting within the conservative liberal establishment. Do you support the Virtue Signal candidate like Harris or the reflexive instinct of a Blue Dog Democrat with neoliberal street cred like Biden.

I think the media corps. will continue to black out Sanders alternative.



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#312790 - 07/07/19 12:27 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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"Grim argued in the Post that the old-guard Democrats — led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — were buffaloed long ago by The Gipper: by Ronald Reagan’s presidential landslide in 1980 and 1984 reelection. They suffered a “traumatic political coming-of-age” in Reagan’s rise and have never been the same, he argued.

Because of that experience, their consistent fallback position is: “Now is not the time; push too fast or too far, and there’ll be a backlash,” according to Grim.

The old-era Democrats are still now “unable to embrace the new political environment in which the progressive agenda is genuinely popular,” he noted. “For people under a certain age, this slinking in the corner is deeply strange behavior.”

While I'm glad Grim said it I'm not so sure if that's truly what motivates the entrenched party leadership. IMO the leadership's interests are not that different from republicans interests as a whole. They just sell it a different way.

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#312791 - 07/07/19 05:13 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
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internet sex tape scandal


I think Trump has made sex scandals obsolete. Anybody can do almost anything, and still become President. It's the American Dream rooting around in the cesspool.
Any Republican can do almost anything. I guarantee the conservative moralist brigade will attack mercilessly every minor transgression of the libertine "Democrat" party. Pederasts, predators, and preachers are welcome in the GOP, but the standard doubles when a Democrat is involved.

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#312795 - 07/07/19 08:10 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I see Epstein is back in the legal system for trafficking minors. It will be interesting if he gives up his buddy Donald for another deal.

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#312798 - 07/08/19 10:35 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Or Clinton for that matter.

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#312802 - 07/08/19 04:34 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Steyer looks like he's lacing up!

Billionair cuts to the chase

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#312804 - 07/08/19 06:18 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I don't frequent any places where I might run across the actual vile stupidity of Republicans but...

Do you suppose they are using the term clown-car in reference to our ridiculous field of presidential wannabes?

I'm really looking forward to the winnowing that will quickly take place once the primaries get underway.
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#312805 - 07/08/19 06:32 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Our economic, military and political realities today are nothing I wanted to contemplate but here we are.



You also don't want to contemplate the numbers, which are in the centrist's favor. That's human nature because the overwhelming majority of human beings simply are not political.

So in essence, you'd rather destroy the majority in the hopes that a minority gets to pick up the pieces and take control while giving a free ride to the Right.
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#312806 - 07/08/19 06:35 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle

Gawd, I'm glad I gave up TV when it went digital!



Why?
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#312809 - 07/08/19 09:31 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I gave it up years before that. I hate to even be in a room where a television is on....
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