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#312745 - 07/02/19 09:11 PM Crimes Against Humanity ?
Jim D (FreeThinker) Offline
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Hey there all, it has been quite awhile since I have been here . . . politics is just too damn depressing.

I have a question . . I guess it is a little rhetorical.

Given what is is happening at our southern border with immigrant children and women . . .

How likely, or possible, is it that some if not all of the current administration and the current idiot's family could be charged with crimes against humanity in international court ?

US politicians could NOT be involved and I think there is enough world-wide animosity against #45 that is is conceivable.

This would tickle me to no end.
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#312746 - 07/02/19 10:13 PM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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Slim to nil, Jimmey, slim to nil...

No one would have the cojones to charge him while he's in office and afterwards it's pretty pointless. But it's a nice thought.
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#312747 - 07/02/19 11:38 PM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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Still . . the thought gives me ting-lies all over my body.

Also . . there are others in the administration that are culpable as well.
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#312748 - 07/03/19 01:58 AM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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I do not disagree with the premise. I boiled over today at the criminal clown car that is the current administration. I thought George II was bad enough, but this group of incompetent criminals is worse than I even imagined it could be. It is an embarrassment the world over, and just absolutely depressing. I'm with Jim. It is hard to even think about. I'm contributing to several viable Democratic candidates, and I am going to be campaigning this year. This utter criminality has to end.
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#312749 - 07/03/19 03:23 PM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trump will likely be defeated in 2020. That's the prize. Keep your eye on it.

Jim, what you're hoping for here is that if we can't trump up some charge against Trump that will stick then maybe some foriegn country could solve this for us by sending special agents to arrest him...?

And, NWP, you call him a criminal but he's been under investigation since before he even became a candidate. So far nothing has really come of it(and don't even bring up the obstruction thing)

Even in the MeToo years rape accusations slide off him like water off a ducks back. He rules as an autocrat within a plutocracy. Congress has abdicated its powers. He cannot break the law because he is the law.

The weird dynamic in all this is the cult like support for his cruelty and incompetence, his self serving greed and obvious corruption.

His audience loves it! But if you take a look around you, The Duggars are off the air, Duck Dynasty is no more, Honey boo-boo is gone and the Trump Show will be over soon. Human decency will win out in the end.
Or else it won't...

2020 is coming.
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#312750 - 07/03/19 04:01 PM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger

His audience loves it! But if you take a look around you, The Duggars are off the air, Duck Dynasty is no more, Honey boo-boo is gone and the Trump Show will be over soon. Human decency will win out in the end.
Or else it won't...

2020 is coming.




Wait a minute...I think you may have glommed onto something really big, Greger! I mean, you're RIGHT...what HAS happened to all the ultra-yeehaw "I'm a good ole boy con-tard and heerz muh teevee show" market?

Our living rooms aren't crawling with quiver-full babies, the guys who rivaled the Smith Brothers for best looking cough drop beard display aren't mugging for the camera...we should be neck deep in Honey Boo-Boo but as you just pointed out, they may have already shot their wad and no one cares anymore, and the apex beneficiaries (TrumpCo) of such nonsense didn't get the memo yet.

And where are all the Trump branded properties?
A lot of them are stripped of the Trump name, or they're in foreclosure!



PS: Hi JimD...so glad you dropped by! Keep coming back!!
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#312751 - 07/03/19 04:47 PM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Gun sales are way down and the NRA is going broke and destroying itself from within...The TEA Party is gone, assimilated under Trump. Evangelicals are clinging to legitimacy on the coatails of Trump's stampede over Christianity's basic tenets...

It's all going gloriously according to plan.
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#312752 - 07/03/19 08:51 PM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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I just thought the best shot at getting a conviction would be outside this country.

We are signatories of that august body (the international court) are we not? Even if the extreme-right thinks we give up our sovereignty we would be obligated to hand the criminals over.

I guess my fantasies runneth over, or maybe amuck. My fantasy world is all that separates me from running and screaming into the night.

Originally Posted By: Greger
Trump will likely be defeated in 2020. That's the prize. Keep your eye on it.


ReallY ?? Who thought that imbecile would win in the first place? No . . . I take nothing for granted.

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

PS: Hi JimD...so glad you dropped by! Keep coming back!!


Thank you . . I have missed coming here . . . I look occasionally . . but #45 has me so bent that it is hard to not be depressed.

Originally Posted By: Greger
Gun sales are way down and the NRA is going broke and destroying itself from within...The TEA Party is gone, assimilated under Trump. Evangelicals are clinging to legitimacy on the coatails of Trump's stampede over Christianity's basic tenets...

Gun sales down . . . saturated market ? or sated market ?
NRA . . . microcosm example of organizations going to crapola ?
TEA Party . . never really existed . . just a bunch of yahoos that were so stupid that they thought they had something.
Evangelicals ? . . hah . . power hungry hypocrites, possibly on their last legs and taking us all down together, but then again maybe not it they twist the rules enough..
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#312755 - 07/04/19 02:21 AM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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Yeah...depressing. That's why we talk so much about socialism and capitalism....to avoid talking about Trump.

Some here still think he might be indicted. I'm not one of them.

Beating him in 2020 is our best option. If he wins a second term we're in deep deep trouble. Of the existential sort...which may or may not include the extinction of our species.

That's Trouble with a capital "T".
Lots and lots of trouble.
Right here in River City.
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#312756 - 07/04/19 06:33 AM Re: Crimes Against Humanity ? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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The US is NOT a signatory to the International Criminal Court treaty. The usual fears about our soldiers being convicted by other countries that don't like genocide and torture. Both of which seems to be recurrent American policies.

Of course the Nazis did not agree to anything like Nuremberg, and yet several of the were convicted and executed.

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