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#312739 - 07/01/19 04:07 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Yeah, time will tell wether or not it's got any legs. The nearly dormant progressive left was enrgized in 2016 though and it's had some notable successes in the off year and mid-terms . I'll take what I can get and hope it keeps on truckin.
In Upstate a similar election played out last week as well. 3 young progressive candidates went up against the party backed nominees and all three party backed candidates lost.
The Democratic party has to pay lip service to more progressive proposals. Some positions are currently out of favor that should have been obvious.
Some myths about politics have been dispelled to an increased audience.
My sunny side of the street, I guess.

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#312740 - 07/01/19 06:43 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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3 young progressive candidates


We could sure use a lot more of those on ballots nationwide.
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#312744 - 07/02/19 08:44 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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I would settle for more progressive and socialist districts being allowed to have a more progressive socialist candidates to keep incumbents honest and truly representing their constituents.

Oddly can't happen for some reason.

After the first Democratic Presidential Candidate debate of what appears will be a ratings grope death march of TeeVee executives I rather enjoyed the beat down Joe Biden got on his ACTUAL record. At time he looked cratered and word is the smart money is looking into other shop windows. I hope that trend continues.

For every one of the candidates I hope it happens. I'd like to think consistency would matter on some of the most existential topics in human history but I could be wrong. Let's go to the records and see who's been walking the walk.

Or there might be an internet sex tape scandal that takes our breath away for weeks.

Gawd, I'm glad I gave up TV when it went digital!



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#312757 - 07/04/19 06:44 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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internet sex tape scandal


I think Trump has made sex scandals obsolete. Anybody can do almost anything, and still become President. It's the American Dream rooting around in the cesspool.

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#312758 - 07/04/19 06:49 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I saw a video where they were claiming that Obama is now rated as the worst President since Truman by 33% of the population. Of course that's just the Trump base following his obsession with The Black Guy. I suspect that if you ask them about specific actions and policies they didn't like the only thing they can come up with is ObamaCare, which is actually serving most of them very well.

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#312777 - 07/05/19 04:51 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Perhaps you've forgotten that Obama was a liar? That he blew up the deficit? That he ruled by executive order like some kind of tinpot dictator?
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#312778 - 07/06/19 03:50 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Don't forget he went golfing and wasn't carrying some White guy's clubs! The nerve!

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#312781 - 07/06/19 12:22 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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In hindsight, Obama turned out to be a disappointment.
He talked of people's material concerns in 08 but legislated from the right. He stocked his cabinet with finance.

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#312786 - 07/07/19 02:37 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Obama did NOT legislate because he wasn't in the legislature. I think he would have been a lot more productive if Congress had not blocked his every move. I don't think you can blame him for that, unless you think he should have ordered a few selective assassinations.

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#312787 - 07/07/19 03:52 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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The Obama years were disappointing but it wasn't his fault.
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