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#313397 - 08/10/19 11:02 PM
Re: Supreme Court vs. The People
[Re: NW Ponderer]
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Gerrymandering existed before either political party did. It has been used and abused by both of them. Gov. Patrick Henry of Virginia gerrymandered a district in an attempt to prevent James Madison from being elected to Congress. Had Henry been successful we would not have had our Bill of Rights. (Madison is the author of them, with a lot of help and advice.) While the Supreme Court decided that it is not a Constitutional issue it's doing so is not a nail in the coffin of free and fair elections. Gerrymandering does make them more difficult to achieve but throughout American history on the whole we have had free and fair elections. The practice of gerrymandering is much better than what was done in the 1850's in (Bloody) Kansas.
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#313402 - 08/11/19 12:56 AM
Re: Supreme Court vs. The People
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It's the Despair Quotient!
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Registered: 08/03/04
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What exactly is being argued about with this latest supposed indignation.
Who is the aggrieved and why is it only focused on this particular aspect of a spectrum of undemocratic practices.....
What's the fuss about really?
Just asking. Do you fuss about incrementalism, do you fuss about punching left while moving right, do you fuss about parties refusing to listen to the will of the people? But you're blind to gerrymandering? 
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#313403 - 08/11/19 01:34 AM
Re: Supreme Court vs. The People
[Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Registered: 11/24/06
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Gerrymandering existed before either political party did. And murder existed before there was a law against it. As thinking, evolving beasts we don't say "people have always killed people, nothing you can do about it." We f*cking do something about it. Supreme court had the chance and chose not to.
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#313404 - 08/11/19 03:53 AM
Re: Supreme Court vs. The People
[Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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What exactly is being argued about with this latest supposed indignation.
Who is the aggrieved and why is it only focused on this particular aspect of a spectrum of undemocratic practices.....
What's the fuss about really?
Just asking. Do you fuss about incrementalism, do you fuss about punching left while moving right, do you fuss about parties refusing to listen to the will of the people? But you're blind to gerrymandering? jeebuz, A 1 1/2 month pause responding to a post? You really do have a bug up your behind. What are you trying to say? The mocking I get but your point escapes me. Was there one?
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#313405 - 08/11/19 03:58 AM
Re: Supreme Court vs. The People
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It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 15728
Loc: Whittier, California
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What exactly is being argued about with this latest supposed indignation.
Who is the aggrieved and why is it only focused on this particular aspect of a spectrum of undemocratic practices.....
What's the fuss about really?
Just asking. Do you fuss about incrementalism, do you fuss about punching left while moving right, do you fuss about parties refusing to listen to the will of the people? But you're blind to gerrymandering? jeebuz, A 1 1/2 month pause responding to a post? You really do have a bug up your behind. What are you trying to say? The mocking I get but your point escapes me. Was there one? Well since you don't think there's much of a fuss, then I can understand you not seeing the point. What I don't get is why you think I necroed an old thread just to pick on you. It came back to life today and I scrolled up to get back in sync with the recent posts. What's the fuss about? Heh, you figure it out. The subject is gerrymandering.
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#313406 - 08/11/19 04:13 AM
Re: Supreme Court vs. The People
[Re: NW Ponderer]
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The DCCC is blacklisting campaign shops and vendors from ever doing business with the party if they do business with a primary challenger.- Crickets from you as most everyone else here.
Supreme court hands down a ruling on gerrymandering that goes against one party- nashing of teeth, rending of garments, 'end of democracy!' shouts.
What part of that observation seems incorrect to you?
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#313408 - 08/11/19 04:17 AM
Re: Supreme Court vs. The People
[Re: NW Ponderer]
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""If the DCCC enacts this policy to blacklist vendors who work with challengers, we risk undermining an entire universe of potential candidates and vendors - especially women and people of color - whose ideas, energy, and innovation need a place in our party," Pressley wrote in a lengthy thread about the issue. "[W]e cannot credibly lay claim to prioritizing diversity & inclusion when institutions like the DCCC implement policies that threaten to silence new voices and historically marginalized communities," she added." Article I still say it smells of hypocrisy.
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