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#312816 - 07/09/19 04:22 PM Re: They have names [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
In this instance, Trump is actually following the standard Republican playbook: ignore the issue, and make it worse. The list is long - climate change, environment, income inequality, racial disparity, Palestine, South and central American poverty. Trump has merely expanded the list and followed the worst course possible.


So what NWP?

When democrats vote like republicans and democratic voters keep supporting same democrats what difference does it make to call out what play the president is following?

It's a small thing but raises a big point about party fealty.

Another perspective:

"While the defeat on that bill was initiated by the right wing of the Democratic caucus—an illuminating example of why it’s not enough to just elect people with (D) next to their name on the ballot—Pelosi’s capitulation to the likes of alleged car fighter Josh Gottheimer was just another in a series of a long line of surrenders. At this point, Pelosi has all but conceded that Trump can do whatever he wants, as evidenced by the fact that she’s fighting the left’s push for an impeachment inquiry seemingly just as hard as he is. When writer E. Jean Carroll came forward last month and accused Trump of raping her in a department store in the 1990s, Pelosi virtually ignored it, saying she hasn’t “paid much attention to it.” The Speaker of the House hasn’t paid much attention to a rape allegation made against the President of the United States. Got it."

The Democrats are not an opposition party

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#312821 - 07/09/19 05:06 PM Re: They have names [Re: chunkstyle]
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The Speaker of the House hasn’t paid much attention to a rape allegation made against the President of the United States. Got it.

I didn't pay much attention to it either. Probably happened, can't be proved one way or the other. We know Trump has had a sordid history with women and this is just further proof. It was page 6 news at best.

I take much greater issue with the fact that she passed the Senate Immigration funding bill without demanding changes....
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#312824 - 07/09/19 08:03 PM Re: They have names [Re: Greger]
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Agreed, about the border funding. Spineless, worthless.

The rape charge against a sitting president just makes for a good mile marker for these dark and colorful times.

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#312825 - 07/09/19 10:02 PM Re: They have names [Re: chunkstyle]
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Have you ever stopped for a moment to think about just how fortunate we are to be alive during this historic time? Witnessing what might well be the end of civilization? Or the beginning of a New Era...

Something like 62% of Republicans approve of Trump's treatment of immigrants. The children in cages, the terrorist tactics, the sheer horrific misery of it all. 62%....dunno where that number came from so no link. The rest of the world? Not so much...
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#312833 - 07/10/19 05:14 AM Re: They have names [Re: Greger]
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Probably happened, can't be proved one way or the other.


This is why we have police and collect rape kits. If she had just reported this it would have saved countless lives and America's position in the world. I have little sympathy for women who do not report sexual assaults. Yes, it may be painful, but think of all the women who he will assault later!

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