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#313230 - 08/06/19 09:16 PM Re: Democratic Socialism [Re: jgw]
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Gravel's feelin the Bern...

Bernie 2020

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#313232 - 08/06/19 10:23 PM Re: Democratic Socialism [Re: chunkstyle]
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But Gravel's supporters support Gabbard? And Gravel says yeah I support her too... and who are these Gravel Teens and why are they running a campaign for an 86 year...?

I'm not sure if Gravel knows what Gravel is feeling.
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#313233 - 08/06/19 11:04 PM Re: Democratic Socialism [Re: Greger]
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It's the Despair Quotient!
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Originally Posted By: Greger
So then...we should make every effort to elect the most centrist candidates, who will, with the Republicans, resist any change that benefits the working class. Resist any change that addresses global climate change, income inequality or human rights issues? Because it's too hard?

Joe Biden doesn't even approve of legal weed.

Because we probably can't accomplish everything we want we should just forget about it. Might as well vote republican with that logic.

And you don't want to be accused of incrementalism.


Now, if you'll just go back and find the spot where I said, "Hey kids, I think we should all just get behind Joe Biden!", you'll have something.
Otherwise all you have is...

(Drum roll + rimshot)

A logical fallacy.
Because I never said that.

What I AM saying is that although I am going to pour every ounce of energy and financial support I can to Bernie or Liz (already donated to Bernie so far) when the primaries come, if we WIND UP with Joe, I will reluctantly vote for him rather than (A) sit home and sulk, (B) write in someone's name, or (C) vote for Trump because THAT'LL teach the bastards!
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#313234 - 08/06/19 11:05 PM Re: Democratic Socialism [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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I think we need to become a lot better at inspiring them.
The Donald seems very skilled at "inspiring" his admirers.

Trump is a con man doing what con men do. I'm not looking for that kind of candidate.
Bernie is extremely skilled at inspiring his admirers. Warren is proving to be quite inspirational as well.

Biden actually has no admirers to inspire.

Face it...It's Biden, Warren, or Sanders. If you think the lefties are a bad choice then that puts you in the Biden camp.



Well fortunately I get to choose whether to get in the box you've prepared for me and I choose not to do so.

Now whattaya gonna do?
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#313235 - 08/06/19 11:06 PM Re: Democratic Socialism [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
and who are these Gravel Teens and why are they running a campaign for an 86 year...?


Who is Mike Gravel

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