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#313102 - 08/01/19 10:18 PM And we're off and running!
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It's the Despair Quotient!
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The Democratic Party has started the debates, a few states have primaries coming up very soon, it is time to start a whole new forum, Campaign 2020.

And-d-d-d-d-d they're off and running!
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#313148 - 08/03/19 06:43 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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This post didn't make it onto the current topics list BUMP
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#313150 - 08/03/19 06:54 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
This post didn't make it onto the current topics list BUMP


LOL oh crap I had that problem once before, have to figure out how to fix it.
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#313202 - 08/05/19 02:18 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Joe, are you losing your marbles?

Joe Biden offers sympathy for "the tragic events in Houston" hours after El Paso shooting.

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Biden, 76, mistakenly referred to the shootings as “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before," but later corrected himself, according to a pool report. Biden seemingly confused Houston for El Paso and Michigan for Ohio when speaking to donors about the shootings.
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#313204 - 08/05/19 05:32 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Biden Trashes Millenials In His Bid To Become Even Less Likeable

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"The younger generation now tells me how tough things are. Give me a break. No, no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break. Because here’s the deal guys, we decided we were gonna change the world. And we did. We did. We finished the civil rights movement in the first stage. The women’s movement came to be. So my message is, get involved. There’s no place to hide. You can go and you can make all the money in the world, but you can't build a wall high enough to keep the pollution out. You can't live where—you can't not be diminished when your sister can't marry the man or woman, or the woman she loves. You can't—when you have a good friend being profiled, you can't escape this stuff. And so, there's an old expression my philosophy professor would always use from Plato, 'The penalty people face for not being involved in politics is being governed by people worse than themselves. It's wide open. Go out and change it."


Millenials are NOT going to be backing Biden. Biden needs to be winning the votes of the 25-38 year old age group, not using them as a stepping stone to win the votes of older democrats.


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#313451 - 08/11/19 08:39 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Elizabeth Warren is now in second place behind Joe Biden, having eclipsed Bernie Sanders.
A few more Joe Biden moments where he pens bite-sized hagiographies to his neoliberal past or trips over his own tongue and Warren may indeed take the top spot.
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#313453 - 08/11/19 08:56 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I'd rather she ate into Biden's lead...
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#313454 - 08/11/19 08:57 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Elizabeth Warren is now in second place behind Joe Biden, having eclipsed Bernie Sanders.
A few more Joe Biden moments where he pens bite-sized hagiographies to his neoliberal past or trips over his own tongue and Warren may indeed take the top spot.

The Left need to get over Biden's senior moments. Biden is the only Democrat that moderates and Independents agree on to replace Trump.

I love Lizzy Warren - she's a better candidate for me than Hillary ever was, but the "socialist" label placed upon her by the Right will give us another four years of Trump if she is the Dem nom.

I'd want Lizzy to be FedChair in a Biden Administration. Harris as AG. Inslee as SecInterior. Buttiegig as VP. Booker FBI Director. Castro as DHS Director. O'Rourke HUD or SecEd.

Let's play this next election safe, then move the left. smile
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#313460 - 08/11/19 09:24 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Calling her a socialist is a denial of reality. In 2008 she was appointed to lead the Senate committee that oversaw TARP among other things. Bailing out banks is not exactly socialist! Her CV is filled with academic appointments where she taught or was dean at various law schools (in Texas, even!), and in about 2011:

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Although she published in many fields, her expertise was in bankruptcy and commercial law. In that field, only Bob Scott of Columbia and Alan Schwartz of Yale were cited more often than Warren.


She is actually fabulously qualified. But I guess qualification doesn't mean much when we have a game-shoe host as President.

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#313464 - 08/11/19 10:04 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Warren is a social democrat. She's more capitalist than socialist but she understands that more money needs to be funneled downward. She knows how money works and how the laws that control money works.
This lady is smart and at the peak of her career. She'd be a dab hand at re-assembling the government that Trump has broken and has a plan to make the economy work for everyone.

In the past I thought she was probably un-electable, but here she sits in second place so I'm letting myself get my hopes up.
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