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#313259 - 08/08/19 12:49 AM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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Retirement? What is it?
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#313261 - 08/08/19 03:12 AM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: logtroll]
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Retirement? What is it?
It is bliss. It is heaven on earth.
You've probably never woken up in the morning and thought to yourself "I don't want to go to work today"

I, on the other hand, woke up every single morning of my life and thought "I don't want to go to work today" except for when I was a kid and had to go to school, I didn't want to do that either.
Retirement is when that silly notion of "working" no longer even crosses your mind. It's more like "what sort of mischief shall I get up to today?"

Ride around on the mower some? Cool! Do some pressure washing maybe? It's like playing in the sprinklers! Or just get high and look at some porn...Retirement is freedom.
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#313262 - 08/08/19 03:35 AM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
Retirement? What is it?


Here's Karen meeting Haskell Wexler, the man who shot most of
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?"(among many others)
She met him about a year before he passed away at 93.



The man worked every day until his last one, and I always hoped I could maintain my health enough to do the same.
So I am getting used to the idea of retirement but it wasn't my first choice.

I am retired against my will, but I am trying out lots of stuff to keep myself occupied and engaged as much as possible.


Edited by Jeffery J. Haas (08/08/19 03:56 PM)
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#313264 - 08/08/19 09:08 AM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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It is wonderful. I remember it perfectly when my boss asked to talk to me about my next project. I sat in his office and he said: "What we are going to do is terminate you instead." I had turned 65 and they didn't want the hassle of paying some workers for full health and some for Medicare Part B. Which is really kind of dumb because Medicare is SO much cheaper. I think he felt guilty about it since I had worked for him at three different companies, but I had a huge grin on my face as I cleaned out my desk.

I saved and invested quite a bit more than 15% of my income, always took the full 401K, IRAs, etc. My wife and I bought houses without selling the old one several times. So I really didn't need the money. Getting terminated was freedom. I do miss the company of my coworkers, and they have never invited me to any of their holiday parties or even to lunch since that day, which is kind of weird. I think maybe they all feel bad about getting rid of me, but I couldn't be happier about it.

Meanwhile, I have not been idle. I never have to think about going to work again, but I do keep busy. For example I installed a solar electric system in my backyard. And I don't mean I had somebody else do it. I rented the excavator, dug the footing holes, built the frame, held the hose for the concrete pump, installed the panels and wired them, dug the electric conduit trench, installed the grid-tie inverter, wired the whole thing, got the permits myself, and so forth. My only outside "help" was to get a public engineer to rubber stamp the plans I drew for $25. I've also done some major renovation projects on our rentals, and got my mother's house ready to sell. I am also now a breeder of Yellow Labs, which is fun.

There's always something else to do. I wonder how it all got done when I was at work five days a week! Still, it's no rush and I can just take a day off any time I want. I can sleep until 10. Stay up until 4 if I want. Go out to eat any time I want, even if my wife has other plans. My general health is pretty good in spite of the MS. My mind is still sharp. (I can do level 5 sudoku puzzles.) I still get ideas and build inventions, usually just for me. I've been thinking about writing another book, this one about being your own solar contractor.

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#313267 - 08/08/19 01:04 PM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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I've been retired since 94. To me retirement is putting off to tomorrow what you can do today. I also work more since being retired than I did when in the military. Wife worked, so I had the pleasure of both the inside, the outside, the youngest and the windows...

But now, the wife is retired, the inside is less, the outside is the same, the youngest is married and the windows have been put off till next quarter.

That is retirement.
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#313795 - 08/15/19 05:36 AM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Jon, since you've now let the cat out of the bag re Disney visits, next time you go see The Mouse, you are required to allow us to take you guys out to lunch or dinner, because we are only about ten miles from Disneyland.
I'd say "breakfast" was an alternate choice except Karen does not wake up till around eleven.

"I raised my two kids, up at 5 AM every weekday, I am done with early rising"

Only thing that gets her up early is a VA appointment!

Anyway, Karen and I are feeding you two next time you get down here.
It's a deal, although our next trip is to Disney World, so I have to cajole Greger to meet me somewhere... wink

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#313800 - 08/15/19 01:35 PM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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Interesting reads...
I retired in January 2018. Gave notice on the 2nd, done on the 11th. Normally management was asked to give 3 months notice, but with my experience the last two years at work - from upper management, not those I worked with - I didn’t feel the need. I did keep my boss in the loop early on since he made the last few years tolerable. Planned to stay til 65, but left a little after 63.

That said, I love it. Some said leaving in January in a Michigan winter was nuts, but I have no problem keeping busy and rekindling some long dormant hobbies is a joy.

I surely agree with the structure bit...combined with a big dose of selfish freedom.

1st...and surely understandable by this group...don’t sit back and watch or read about news all day. Minimal doses for sanity sake. Enough to keep up but not enough to make a news addict crazy. Turn off the morning news when wifey wanders to work. Maybe take a peek in the early afternoon.

2nd...I spent several months - winter - cleaning out paperwork & crap I really let pile up. It doesn’t stop & it can be cathartic.

3rd...first indulgence to go along with hobby life...new electric guitar, amp, accessories...and relearn. Had a handful of guitars - different types - hanging on bedroom walls. Played a lot in & after college but since then they only seemed to come out when my head needed a fix...surely not often enough for the head fixes I should have had. What I play I write. Relearned a lot of my old songs and when the mood struck, wrote new ones. Put them in the form of videos so I could share. Head to guitar to GarageBand to video to YouTube to Facebook for friends. Therapeutic... but a good session after wifey heads to work can keep me going til mid afternoon when it’s time to put toys away.

4th...don’t do the third thing every day. Get out - all year - walk, take pictures, headphones on...bluetoothed to my phone, enjoy & stay active...STAY ACTIVE!

No more counting...

Be a house husband to the nth degree. As long a wifey works (another 8 months?) dinner on table when she gets home...She texts “leaving”, I respond “K”, and I have 35 minutes...pretty good at it. I keep the house clean, keep laundry in control, keep our two acre yard maintained, all that goes with it...that structure thing. And I let her take the lead as to what she wants to do with her non-work time...with or without me.

Stay in contact with friends I truly appreciate. I have a few planned lunches each month and it great to visit. I have regular sharing with friends on various social media platforms...but also limit the time I spend on them. Wifey might disagree. But it has allowed me to rekindle associations with old Navy (not the store) and college friends. At times, it feels like being in our 20’s again...til pictures happen.

Camp (small camper) when wifey’s vacation schedule allows...and sometimes when it doesn’t. Too much beauty in Michigan not to enjoy it. Done it all our lives & it’s often combined with getting together with kids, other family & those rekindled friends. Gonna be at the Straits for two weeks staring August 25th...in the middle, we’ll walk the Mackinac Bridge on Labor Day...over & back...10 miles. My tenth time. smile

Funny thing happened in 2018 when I went in to get an absentee ballot for the election...came out as an election worker. So instead of filling & mailing my ballot (which I did), I spent 18 hours at the precinct on Election Day. 6 AM to midnight. It was a long, interesting, rewarding experience...though the last four hours of balancing, reporting, binding & waiting was a bit tiring. Been invited already to do 4 elections next year. Still thinking about it. Not sure I can handle the stress of the presidential election and stay calm & neutral... also was offered the position of Township Clerk. The existing elected official was resigning for business purposes and asked me to take over. Thought about it seriously, but wifey said “no, No, NO NO NO NO!”.

Mentioned wifey may retire next spring. She’ll be 62 in April. Thanks to my too many moves, despite her being a nurse for 40 years, she’s never been somewhere long enough to have a vested pension. And getting kids raised & educated seemed more important than thinking about 401Ks back then. So she is nervous about it. I’ve laid it out in spreadsheets for her and pointed out that we will do a lot better than a lot of other folks we know. I have a good pension, have a good SS amount pending, have a decent cushion 401K, and she has a reasonable SS expectation...and a small 401K. House is paid off. Toys are supplied. We have no extravagant travel plans or other needs.

Built a 48x32 pole barn in preparation for my retirement (and she honestly loves it). Hold 3 vehicles & the camper, kayaks, tools, toolbench & storage, 50” tv, Bluetooth speakers in the rafters which love to blare the music on my phone, a fridge recently purchased for a family reunion last July 4th. Holds the exercise toys taken from the house...weights, elliptical, treadmill (though they seemed to get more use in the house). In other words, it has more crap than I ever plan to move. Building it pretty much put the final stake in the homestead.

I am very happy in retirement, but I always felt comfortable relaxing, being lazy or active, being selfish or involved. One of our three kids lives two miles away & I regularly play with those three granddaughters. Another kid gave us two grandsons...an hour away. Camped with them mid July. smile Third kid is married, a chef & lives in our vacationing region. Looking forward to the day Liz is retired and we can wander at will. I think she’s more concerned than me. Tried to explain the difference being when she’s free, our plans aren’t confined to weekends and the 15 days a year she has as “personal time off”. It’ll grow on her. The Labor Day camping trip will make for some interesting conversations & planning. It always does. Might get her retired a bit earlier...I wish.

There...that’s my short response. Forgot how wordy I was did ya now? Thanks for having me back at times.
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#313804 - 08/15/19 02:11 PM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Jon, since you've now let the cat out of the bag re Disney visits, next time you go see The Mouse, you are required to allow us to take you guys out to lunch or dinner, because we are only about ten miles from Disneyland.
I'd say "breakfast" was an alternate choice except Karen does not wake up till around eleven.

"I raised my two kids, up at 5 AM every weekday, I am done with early rising"

Only thing that gets her up early is a VA appointment!

Anyway, Karen and I are feeding you two next time you get down here.


It's a deal, although our next trip is to Disney World, so I have to cajole Greger to meet me somewhere... wink
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#313805 - 08/15/19 02:12 PM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Jon, since you've now let the cat out of the bag re Disney visits, next time you go see The Mouse, you are required to allow us to take you guys out to lunch or dinner, because we are only about ten miles from Disneyland.
I'd say "breakfast" was an alternate choice except Karen does not wake up till around eleven.

"I raised my two kids, up at 5 AM every weekday, I am done with early rising"

Only thing that gets her up early is a VA appointment!

Anyway, Karen and I are feeding you two next time you get down here.
It's a deal, although our next trip is to Disney World, so I have to cajole Greger to meet me somewhere... wink


Well dang, I thought you were going to Disneyland in Anaheim, CA
ROTFMOL
Greger said you guys go to Orlando!
Well if you ever DO get out to Anaheim, we're just up the road.
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#313812 - 08/15/19 02:53 PM Re: Retired ? Is it what you thought it would be? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Well dang, I thought you were going to Disneyland in Anaheim, CA
ROTFMOL
Greger said you guys go to Orlando!
Well if you ever DO get out to Anaheim, we're just up the road.
I still plan on it. I tried to get her to sneak down there this month while they said it wasn't busy (after Galaxy's Edge opened). Instead I am scheduling contracts for roof, fence, etc. Tree guys arrive in an hour. I'm a bit nervous. I'm not good with change at home. Love change going out and doing things - I try to do something new every day - but want to have stability at home.

And BC! Welback! I, too, have a plethora of guitars that I plink on. I just added a slew from an estate sale of a friend's uncle. He had gotten into it late in life. I now have (ahem) two classical, two electric, two electric-acoustic, an accoustic, a 12-string and two ukuleles. And two keyboards. I have built a music studio in the old game room, but I am having a devil of a time getting the software to cooperate!

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