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#301021 - 05/01/17 11:10 PM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: NW Ponderer]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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"I would be honored to meet with Kim Jong Un" - President Donald Trump

You know, Dennis Rodman can be forgiven, because he's Dennis Rodman.
It's a good thing that the old frustrated Austrian house painter isn't still alive. I'm sure he would be honored to meet him, too.
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#301022 - 05/02/17 12:42 AM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: NW Ponderer]
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He's honored to praise and emulate him, anyway.
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#301023 - 05/02/17 01:30 AM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: NW Ponderer]
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These cast of dictatorial characters are those for whom Trump aspires. It has been obvious from day one that strongman leaders are his role and wet dream models. And hold his most dear aspirations while he works up his perspirations.

It would not be so disconcerting if Mr. Trump did not have his enormous cast of sycophantic lemmings who will love him all the more for that no matter what outrageous stunts he pulls—— Anywhere. D. Trump had commented awhile back on the campaign trail that he could shoot someone in broad daylight in NYC, with many witnesses present, and his followers would not care. Yer darn tootin they wouldn’t care! In fact, if the hypothetical victim happened to be a Clinton/Obama “liberal” it would be all the better, and they just might then and there fire up a celebratory parade in his honor.

Mr. Trump will always have his 40% who will love and adore him no matter what he does. The more outrageous behavior the better. The big question is— how do the rest of us deal with that very sizable and dangerous minority when the chit soon hits the fan as it will—-Big Time…..
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#313275 - 08/08/19 08:01 PM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Because Pres. Trump was not only honored to meet Kim Jong Un but actually did North Korea has started to get rid of its nuclear weapons.
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#313277 - 08/08/19 08:06 PM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: NW Ponderer]
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A quote attributed to FDR is “Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.” He was talking about the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza García (1896-1956). Dealing with dictators is unfortunately part of our foreign policy.
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#313281 - 08/08/19 09:04 PM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: Senator Hatrack]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Because Pres. Trump was not only honored to meet Kim Jong Un but actually did North Korea has started to get rid of its nuclear weapons.


Sorry but it doesn't appear that Kim is getting rid of any nukes.
In fact, somewhat the opposite.
You're definitely old enough to know how the DPRK plays the game.
Putting a reality show context on it doesn't change the way Kim plays it, it just changes the way the presentation looks to the average person.
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#313282 - 08/08/19 09:14 PM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: Senator Hatrack]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
A quote attributed to FDR is “Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.” He was talking about the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza García (1896-1956). Dealing with dictators is unfortunately part of our foreign policy.


Praising them effusively however, seems to be the coin of the realm with one particular administration.
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#313283 - 08/08/19 11:29 PM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Is Kim Jong Un our son of a bitch?
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#313305 - 08/09/19 04:05 AM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The day North Korea gets rid of a nuclear weapon is the day I'll eat a flying pig.

Kim is well aware of what happened to The Ukraine. They gave up their nukes to Russia, and a few years later Russia has invaded and is occupying a quarter of their country.

Nope, they just stopped testing them, mainly because they work fine and they are expensive. No need to test them. Instead, look for North Korea to steadily improve their delivery systems. Which they do keep testing. Like last week!

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#313306 - 08/09/19 04:06 AM Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
Senator Hatrack Offline
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At least Pres. Trump got to meet with Kim Jong Un to start the discussion. Trump is the first American president to visit North Korea. That is more than any of his predecessors have been able to. Whether or not we like a dictator doesn't matter. When a dictator has nuclear weapons and is building missiles that can deliver them to Phoenix, AZ we need to be talking with him.

For the record the Korean War is not over. In 1953 we signed a truce with North Korea. A truce does not end a war, a peace treaty does.
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