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#313458 - 08/11/19 09:15 PM Re: They have names [Re: NW Ponderer]
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In my best Donald Trump voice aka imitating Donald Trump:

Thereís a lot of talk about the fact that Trump molested a teen girl. I know nothing about it. I hear that he molested a teen girl. Iím sure that somebody will be looking at that.

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#313461 - 08/11/19 09:30 PM Re: They have names [Re: pondering_it_all]
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But there are also a certain percentage that are born bisexual. When they reach puberty they can be attracted to people of either sex.

I was born Bi, from an early age I knew I wanted to get into everybody's pants. It was very confusing. I tried both ways but it was just a lot easier and more convenient to go straight and never pursue those other urges. So yeah, that happens.
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#313476 - 08/11/19 11:04 PM Re: They have names [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I think there's a tiny bit of truth in there somewhere. Most people are "born straight", but some percentage are born absolutely gay. They may not know it until they reach puberty and begin to have sexual attraction to other people. They may know from an early age. But there are also a certain percentage that are born bisexual. When they reach puberty they can be attracted to people of either sex. If one of those bi people has positive experiences with either same sex or different sex others, and never has any positive experiences with the other sex, they get in that habit. Probably for life. We tend to imprint on our early sexual experiences.

So that would be a case of a gay person "turning" another gay. But that other person was bi to begin with.

Then there are sexual predators who are more predator than sexual. Like the few pedophiles who don't care which gender their victims are. Or the hypersexual psychopaths who rape women on the outside and rape other men in prison.


I left out what you so eloquently described above, namely the acknowledgment that sexuality exists on a continuum rather than on two binary choices.
Thanks for reminding me. Bow

That said, we still wind up back at the old Four Leaf Clover question.
Why haven't four leaf clovers taken over the entire clover population?

Because homosexuality is a deviation from the norm.
It is however, a STANDARD deviation, and by that I mean one which is expected, and one which contributes important factors, vectors and input to the continuum as it always has.

We might even eventually figure out that homosexuality actually serves a very important purpose in both society and genetics, and we may eventually discover that that perennial five to seven percent of the population who are gay exist for reasons sociologists and scientists have yet to understand.
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#313479 - 08/11/19 11:24 PM Re: They have names [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Actually I think science has already found some survival value in having bi and gay people in a population. Children have an advantage when they have gay relatives because those gay uncles and aunts continue to serve as protectors within the extended family. Heterosexual uncles and aunts tend to go off and start their own families.

I think you can say the same for bi parents: Should a parent be killed, the remaining parent can partner with more potential mates if they are bi. Two parents is always safer for the kids than one parent, even if they are the same sex.

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#313509 - 08/12/19 01:23 PM Re: They have names [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Actually I think science has already found some survival value in having bi and gay people in a population. Children have an advantage when they have gay relatives because those gay uncles and aunts continue to serve as protectors within the extended family. Heterosexual uncles and aunts tend to go off and start their own families.

I think you can say the same for bi parents: Should a parent be killed, the remaining parent can partner with more potential mates if they are bi. Two parents is always safer for the kids than one parent, even if they are the same sex.


I like that because it sounds like it makes sense.
It is a simple and elegant explanation and I am eager to find out how the science around that theory develops.
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