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#313435 - 08/11/19 06:55 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
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"Communism killed more people than the Nazis did!"

Nope. Hitler killed about 11m. Communism killed slightly more than 1m.

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Chairman Mao is responsible for the death of anywhere from 20 to 45 million people. If ignorance is bliss, pdx rick you must be living a blissful life.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/02/05/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao/
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#313445 - 08/11/19 08:08 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Quote:
"Communism killed more people than the Nazis did!"

Nope. Hitler killed about 11m. Communism killed slightly more than 1m.

Source

smile

Chairman Mao is responsible for the death of anywhere from 20 to 45 million people. If ignorance is bliss, pdx rick you must be living a blissful life.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/02/05/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao/


I can't think of anything more blissfully perverse than running around saying

"Being a Nazi might be bad but at least it's not as bad as being a Commie!"
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#313452 - 08/11/19 08:44 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: jgw]
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I think a lot of Mao's deaths were actually unintentional. For example, he saw some birds eating crops and started a campaign to kill all the birds. People slaughtered them en masse and the insect pest problem exploded. Millions died from the famine.

Unintentionally killing people because of unforeseen consequences is a bit different from loading them in box cars and sending them to death camps.

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#313456 - 08/11/19 09:04 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Unintentionally killing people because of unforeseen consequences is a bit different from loading them in box cars and sending them to death camps.

Nuance is not the forte of an American Conservative. coffee
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#313465 - 08/11/19 10:07 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
Senator Hatrack Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Quote:
"Communism killed more people than the Nazis did!"

Nope. Hitler killed about 11m. Communism killed slightly more than 1m.

Source

smile

Chairman Mao is responsible for the death of anywhere from 20 to 45 million people. If ignorance is bliss, pdx rick you must be living a blissful life.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/02/05/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao/


I can't think of anything more blissfully perverse than running around saying

"Being a Nazi might be bad but at least it's not as bad as being a Commie!"


The fact remains that Communist regimes have killed more people than the Nazis did. Therefore, being a Communist is worse than being a Nazi. If people will not admit that the Communists were worse than the Nazis than Communism will still be an acceptable ideology. Both are evil. To ignore the fact that the Communists killed more people than the Nazis did is to lessen their crimes against humanity. The only way to stop any totalitarian regime is to realize that they are all evil!
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#313466 - 08/11/19 10:14 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I think a lot of Mao's deaths were actually unintentional. For example, he saw some birds eating crops and started a campaign to kill all the birds. People slaughtered them en masse and the insect pest problem exploded. Millions died from the famine.

Unintentionally killing people because of unforeseen consequences is a bit different from loading them in box cars and sending them to death camps.

Whether the murders committed by Communists under Chairman Mao were intentional or not does not matter to those who died. They died because of what an evil totalitarian regime did. But then fools who dither about nuance apparently think that because the murders were unintentional that the murderers are not responsible for them. Dead is dead, whether or not the deaths were intentional.
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#313467 - 08/11/19 10:16 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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The only way to stop any totalitarian regime is to realize that they are all evil!


Works like a champ until it's your own party and your own dictator running the regime...then you just get on board like a good little soldier and everyone else is evil.
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#313468 - 08/11/19 10:22 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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The only way to stop any totalitarian regime is to realize that they are all evil!


Works like a champ until it's your own party and your own dictator running the regime...then you just get on board like a good little soldier and everyone else is evil.

What a great job of taking my part of my comment out of context in an attempt to change what I said! The idea that our current administration is a totalitarian regime is ludicrous.
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#313473 - 08/11/19 10:42 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Whether the murders committed by Communists under Chairman Mao were intentional or not does not matter to those who died.

Shouldn't the accuracy of how the people died count for something? Hmm
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#313474 - 08/11/19 10:43 PM Re: Hitler vs Trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack

The fact remains that Communist regimes have killed more people than the Nazis did. Therefore, being a Communist is worse than being a Nazi. If people will not admit that the Communists were worse than the Nazis than Communism will still be an acceptable ideology. Both are evil. To ignore the fact that the Communists killed more people than the Nazis did is to lessen their crimes against humanity. The only way to stop any totalitarian regime is to realize that they are all evil!


No, because there isn't chance in Hell of America turning Communist.
In the 1930's capitalism had largely FAILED a majority of working Americans and membership in both socialist and communist groups zoomed upward, and yet somehow we managed to still cling to the hope that capitalism and democracy would save the day, and we elected a capitalist Democrat to help try to do just that.

We didn't elect a socialist or a communist, we elected a Democratic capitalist.

Therefore, your comment about how "Communism will still be an acceptable ideology" is absolute hysteria.




IT NEVER WAS, because if it was, we'd have hoisted the Hammer and Sickle a long time ago and kids my age who were then in school would have learned how to sing The Internationale.

The United States will never turn communist or socialist.
The big chance of that ever happening came and went eighty or ninety years ago.

Your thinking borders on the edge of Joseph McCarthy, or so it seems.
You're emptying crypto-commies out of the wastebasket, checking under the bed and seeing red flames in the toilet.


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