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#313638 - 08/13/19 09:05 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
In regards to Bill Ayers and Barrack H. Obama you ignored this comment.
"Apparently it is alright associate with a felon if they are a liberal."


No I didn't ignore it.
Obama isn't off the hook on that but I ask you, what specifically did Obama do that is directly attributable to Bill Ayers?
Give me a policy position, or an EO or some statement he made that is directly tied to the positions, statements or deeds of Bill Ayers.
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#313644 - 08/13/19 09:40 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Politician's launch their careers with the support of people who agree with them. If Bill Ayers did not agree with Barrack Obama he would not have let Obama launch his political career in his home. The mere act of having Obama's political career start in his home shows that Ayers and Obama were in agreement on many subjects.
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#313645 - 08/13/19 09:45 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Politician's launch their careers with the support of people who agree with them. If Bill Ayers did not agree with Barrack Obama he would not have let Obama launch his political career in his home. The mere act of having Obama's political career start in his home shows that Ayers and Obama were in agreement on many subjects.


Then you should have no difficulty drawing a bright line that connects the two!
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#313646 - 08/13/19 09:52 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Another attempt to discredit the source because you can't refute what it says.

LOL

One of the most amazing "facts" about argumentation is the tactic used by "conservatives" of finding a real live, true, valid, someone did say it, fact and then conclude whatever outlandish, extremist, false piece of propaganda one can concoct.

So how does one refute a source's delusional opinion??? It's kind of like trying to disprove dragons exist. If you say they exist, I can't prove they don't. Does that make your statement true or valid?
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#313648 - 08/13/19 10:03 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
Quote:
Another attempt to discredit the source because you can't refute what it says.

LOL

One of the most amazing "facts" about argumentation is the tactic used by "conservatives" of finding a real live, true, valid, someone did say it, fact and then conclude whatever outlandish, extremist, false piece of propaganda one can concoct.

So how does one refute a source's delusional opinion??? It's kind of like trying to disprove dragons exist. If you say they exist, I can't prove they don't. Does that make your statement true or valid?




And there's the demand to prove a negative, which I am expecting any minute.
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#313651 - 08/13/19 10:11 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Politician's launch their careers with the support of people who agree with them. If Bill Ayers did not agree with Barrack Obama he would not have let Obama launch his political career in his home. The mere act of having Obama's political career start in his home shows that Ayers and Obama were in agreement on many subjects.


Then you should have no difficulty drawing a bright line that connects the two!

I did. The fact that Obama's career began with Ayers' help is a very bright line of their connection.
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#313652 - 08/13/19 10:45 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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It's the Despair Quotient!
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack

I did. The fact that Obama's career began with Ayers' help is a very bright line of their connection.


Give me a policy position, or an EO or some statement he made that is directly tied to the positions, statements or deeds of Bill Ayers.
Something more than giving a talk or a coffee.

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#313654 - 08/13/19 10:55 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Yours truly circa 1973


Far out, man. Peace. smile
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#313655 - 08/13/19 10:58 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
...Margaret Sanger...

Ms. Sanger advocated for birth control. Remember, back in her day, white people was the super majority. Her sage was to help poor white folks out of their vicious circle that large families equal poverty. Advising black women came second.

Margaret Sanger: Less is more. smile
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#313656 - 08/13/19 11:00 PM Re: This is American Conservatism [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Y'know, the Civil war wasn't about racism.

Tell the State of Georgia that. It says specifically in their declaration of leaving the Union that slavery was the reason for their leaving. Hmm
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