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#313147 - 08/03/19 06:41 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Unless it's Biden. F*** Biden.
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#313154 - 08/03/19 07:08 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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It's not gonna be long now before the whole world goes into war mode against climate change. Ultimately, if we're successful, maybe only a billion or so will die. It's going to have to be a global effort.

The Black Wave, she's a comin'!

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#313157 - 08/03/19 07:37 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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EVEN if it's Biden.

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#313158 - 08/03/19 08:45 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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EVEN if it's Biden.

I am absolutely not convinced that electing Biden would be better than re-electing Trump.

In the short term sure. He'll kick some cans down the road, pass out bandaids and waste four years. Like the Obama years they'll be over soon and we'll have nothing to show for it. Republicans will roar back in 2024.

And we'll be set back again because we were scared to elect a progressive in these times that require bold action by government.

Another Trump term will crash the economy, likely see some shooting wars with high casualties and bring the entire global consortium to the ground. In essence they will burn this motherf**ker to the ground for us so we can re-build it as we see fit.
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#313162 - 08/03/19 10:20 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
EVEN if it's Biden.

I am absolutely not convinced that electing Biden would be better than re-electing Trump.

In the short term sure. He'll kick some cans down the road, pass out bandaids and waste four years. Like the Obama years they'll be over soon and we'll have nothing to show for it. Republicans will roar back in 2024.

And we'll be set back again because we were scared to elect a progressive in these times that require bold action by government.

Another Trump term will crash the economy, likely see some shooting wars with high casualties and bring the entire global consortium to the ground. In essence they will burn this motherf**ker to the ground for us so we can re-build it as we see fit.


Except that I think you just might be mistaken as to who will be "doing all that fixin".
You seem to think it's going to be decent liberals, lefties and other more moderate rational Americans working together.

It might not even be us at all. If this whole thing comes crashing down, rest assured, the vacuum WILL be FILLED immediately.

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#313164 - 08/03/19 11:31 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Except that I think you just might be mistaken as to who will be "doing all that fixin".


And you think Joe Biden is the one who can pull all this back together?

My goal is not necessarily to have the United States remain the world's only superpower. I'm kind of over that. My aim is a Global Utopian Social Democracy. Joe Biden will keep us locked into this same dance that is destroying us.

Nope. NEVER Biden.
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#313165 - 08/03/19 11:52 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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But don't yall worry your pretty little heads about my vote. I live in a blood red district. My vote never counts for much.

Biden looks like a safe bet...But all I see is trouble in that future.
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#313166 - 08/04/19 12:03 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Biden's not my first choice (or second), but if he's the nominee, I'm gonna wield work my but[t] off for him. I just want a competent number two.


Edited by NW Ponderer (08/05/19 03:18 AM)
Edit Reason: Just noticed the automistakes

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#313167 - 08/04/19 12:22 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: logtroll]
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The Black Wave, she's a comin'!


Indeed. New industries and enormous profits to be made. I've even heard of a scheme to set up snowmaking equipment in Antarctica to begin refreezing the oceans...The greatest minds in the world are already working on this and when governments are ready to listen they will have the solutions.

And I don't think it's going to be very many more years before everyone on the planet realizes we are doomed to extinction in just a few generations if we don't change our ways.

Denial...the first stage, Anger the second. I think we're at the Bargaining stage right now but Acceptance is just around the corner.
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#313168 - 08/04/19 12:33 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Biden's not my first choice (or second), but if he's the nominee, I'm gonna wield my but off for him. I just want a competent number two.

I'm pretty sure you could count on Biden to screw that up. He's running against the leftist wave and will choose someone as obscure and useless as himself.
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