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#316253 - 10/04/19 02:59 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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Supreme Court Revisits Abortion With Louisiana Case (npr).
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The U.S. Supreme Court has jumped headlong back into the abortion wars. The court said Friday that it will hear arguments in a case from Louisiana that is nearly identical to a Texas case decided by the court three years ago.

Like the Texas law that the court previously struck down, the Louisiana law requires any doctor performing an abortion to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital; it also requires that clinics that provide abortions be, in effect, mini-hospitals, with everything from wide corridors to expensive equipment.

The Supreme Court said in the Texas case that neither was needed to protect women's health and that both requirements imposed "a substantial burden" on a woman's right to abortion.

Louisiana has conceded that its law is virtually identical to the Texas law. The difference between then and now is that Justice Anthony Kennedy, who cast the decisive fifth vote in the 2016 Texas case, has retired and been replaced by Trump appointee Brett Kavanaugh, who has indicated his willingness to undermine or discard the 2016 decision.

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#316271 - 10/04/19 10:38 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The ultra right are winning for now.

Progressivism will eventually prevail as it has always done throughout history.
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#316287 - 10/05/19 05:36 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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How many millions will be devastated until then?

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#316303 - 10/05/19 10:30 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I wonder how Kavanaugh really feels about abortion. The usual drunken frat-boy attitude is: "Whew, I'm glad that's over." whenever unexpected pregnancy rears it's ugly head. But maybe that only applies to their own girlfriends.

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#316312 - 10/06/19 03:36 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I wonder how Kavanaugh really feels about abortion. The usual drunken frat-boy attitude is: "Whew, I'm glad that's over." whenever unexpected pregnancy rears it's ugly head. But maybe that only applies to their own girlfriends.


My dear friend you just answered your own question.
Of course it only applies to THEIR girlfriends.
The number of offshore abortions by wealthy folks was record breaking pre-Roe, and plenty of them were rock ribbed conservatives and their girlfriends, wives, etc.
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#316331 - 10/06/19 08:05 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I have not read all of this thread so this may duplicate some. I have always been a bit confused about roe vs wade. I just read it all again and it makes little sense to me. The decision was one of privacy of the pregnant and, in addition, the ruling was under the 14th amendment is: Known as the "Reconstruction Amendment," it forbids any state to deny any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

So, Roe vs wade, basically, rules on privacy based on the 14th amendment. This has become known as the decision that legalizes abortion. I just don't get it. Seems tenuous at best.

I am, incidentally all for abortion. I would be willing to temper that if those against (right to lifers) would, under law, be forced, at their expense, to care for and educate, through college, the otherwise unwanted children forced to term by the right to lifers.

I would also add that there are apparently, right now, fewer teenage abortions than normal. This is based, not on abortions but the easily accessed birth control pills which, it seems, a good portion of the right to lifers also want to restrict access to.

One last. There are reasons to believe that the ability to have abortions, and access to birth control, has not only reduced illegitimate births but crime as well. Seems unwanted children tend towards crime. Basically, abortion and birth control tend to control social expenses which we all pay end the end.

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#318318 - 11/26/19 05:04 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: SnarkyPolitics]
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Originally Posted By: SnarkyPolitics
Conservative because you QUESTION authority...??

More like you crave an authoritarian above you, as a Conservative...


NWP craving authoritarianism?
I'm assuming you accidentally responded to the wrong poster LOL.
Ain't no WAY that's NWP.
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#318349 - 11/27/19 06:13 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I suspect the decrease in teen pregnancies has more to do with the popularity of anal sex. Used to be just Catholic girls used to whisper about "God's Loophole" for keeping their boyfriends from straying. These days it's all over the internet. Every teen in America knows about it. Really: That's not hyperbole.

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#318363 - 11/27/19 11:41 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I suspect the decrease in teen pregnancies has more to do with the popularity of anal sex. Used to be just Catholic girls used to whisper about "God's Loophole" for keeping their boyfriends from straying. These days it's all over the internet. Every teen in America knows about it. Really: That's not hyperbole.


Yeesh, normally I always say that I wish I was young again.
But if what you say is true, I'd be on a bummer trip for sure, dude.
Sorry but I've just never ever considered it as an option even on the rare occasions in my youth when it was presented as such.
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#318366 - 11/27/19 11:48 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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My sense is that there are some potentially serious hygiene issues at play there.

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