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#313469 - 08/11/19 10:29 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Greger]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

It's the Despair Quotient!
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I'd rather she ate into Biden's lead...


She just moved from 3rd to 2nd.
That IS eating into Biden's lead.
Let him spew another 10 or twenty monster gaffes and his lead will begin to evaporate.
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#313498 - 08/12/19 02:21 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Well, on his worst day Biden's about 1000 times less likely to "misspeak" than Trump. But I guess we don't hold Trump to any standards at all now.

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#313772 - 08/15/19 03:34 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Maybe Joe Biden wouldn't mind being VP? I think we're at the stage in our country's development that we're ready for a strong woman to lead. After 3 years of not only Trump's misogyny, but the whole dark, dirty Jeffrey Epstein scandal, more people (well maybe mostly me) think it's time for a woman to be president. Tell you one thing, there won't be any sexual assaults or blowjobs in the Oval Office. There won't be any patriarchal rich white men's sexcapades at the top of the administrative food chain going on with a woman at the very top of government.


Edited by HumblePi (08/15/19 03:35 AM)

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#313773 - 08/15/19 03:44 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: HumblePi]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: HumblePi
Maybe Joe Biden wouldn't mind being VP? I think we're at the stage in our country's development that we're ready for a strong woman to lead. After 3 years of not only Trump's misogyny, but the whole dark, dirty Jeffrey Epstein scandal, more people (well maybe mostly me) think it's time for a woman to be president. Tell you one thing, there won't be any sexual assaults or blowjobs in the Oval Office. There won't be any patriarchal rich white men's sexcapades at the top of the administrative food chain going on with a woman at the very top of government.


It might be entertaining to see "Biden Veep II" but I am almost sure he's not interested in accepting that gig for a third term.
Can you imagine Liz rolling her eyes at him every time he commits a gaffe?

I'll get behind Liz. Thing is, her and Bernie agree on a ton of things but she's actually trying to be electable. I'd love it if Bernie was as electable as she is, but he's not.
I'll vote for him if he wins the nom but it sure is looking like we're gonna get Prezzy-dint Pocahontas.
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#313778 - 08/15/19 04:04 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: HumblePi]
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Originally Posted By: HumblePi
Maybe Joe Biden wouldn't mind being VP? I think we're at the stage in our country's development that we're ready for a strong woman to lead. After 3 years of not only Trump's misogyny, but the whole dark, dirty Jeffrey Epstein scandal, more people (well maybe mostly me) think it's time for a woman to be president. Tell you one thing, there won't be any sexual assaults or blowjobs in the Oval Office. There won't be any patriarchal rich white men's sexcapades at the top of the administrative food chain going on with a woman at the very top of government.
Hi Pi! Welcome aboard.

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#313779 - 08/15/19 04:06 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: NW Ponderer]
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VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO

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#313782 - 08/15/19 04:10 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
chunkstyle Offline
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Registered: 10/02/07
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
[quote=HumblePi]I'd love it if Bernie was as electable as she is, but he's not.


Groan...
There it is again.
Electability...

Care to share how the second place position now leading in New Hampshire and out raising the rest of the field (second choice for biden voters, BTW) is not electable?

I'm making popcorn on this one.


Edited by chunkstyle (08/15/19 04:10 AM)

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#313783 - 08/15/19 04:11 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: NW Ponderer]
chunkstyle Offline
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Registered: 10/02/07
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO


Even when they're Republican!!!

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#313784 - 08/15/19 04:21 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: chunkstyle]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
[quote=HumblePi]I'd love it if Bernie was as electable as she is, but he's not.


Groan...
There it is again.
Electability...

Care to share how the second place position now leading in New Hampshire and out raising the rest of the field (second choice for biden voters, BTW) is not electable?

I'm making popcorn on this one.


Hey, if he's climbing back up, good for him and I'm happy.
I already said that if he wins, he can count on my vote.
What more do you want?

Are you never satisfied?
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#313796 - 08/15/19 06:00 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
chunkstyle Offline
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Registered: 10/02/07
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I see electability being used by the pundit class again. No shame with them. I just wondered what you had that made you think he was not as electable. It's a fair question to a discredited qualifier isn't it?

I'm not trying to defend Sanders from any criticism. I'm challenging the idea of 'electability'. You can vote for Biden or Butttigieg or anyone else. It's this weird 'electability' that gets used, usually to destroy a candidate's public perception by punditry. 2016 should have schooled most everyone.

Was it the Iowa fair crowds? The corn kernel vote? I'm just asking.


Edited by chunkstyle (08/15/19 06:01 AM)

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