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#314250 - 08/26/19 05:50 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack

I would much rather have broken capitalism than working socialism.

Congratulations, you have both!
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#314253 - 08/26/19 06:11 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
In another thread someone said that a source I used is questionable. VOX is not questionable, it is an extremely biased and therefore unreliable source!

VOX is rated as left biased, but unlike Daily Mail, it is also rated as highly factual. Therefore , VOX is very reliable.
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#314255 - 08/26/19 06:15 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: logtroll]
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A bit of a thought experiment

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#314256 - 08/26/19 06:26 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Just for what it's worth, when you're working with opinions and ideas, one source is as good as another. Use whomever you wish as a source Senator! I'll personally help you slap whoever complains.

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I would much rather have broken capitalism than working socialism.

And if that "working socialism" is the one Merriam Webster defines then I'm with you 100%. If that right there is socialism then I'm a capitalist.

So capitalist to capitalist, how bout them yankees and what are we going to do about income inequality?

Y'know, the help can't afford food and they aren't coming in because they're sick and can't afford to go to the doctor, should we cut taxes on ourselves or reduce their paychecks?
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#314266 - 08/26/19 08:58 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Greger, you’re too soft. Just fire ‘me; there’s always somebody looking for work.
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#314271 - 08/26/19 09:10 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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What happens when automation puts huge chunks of people out of work? Think out of the box ...
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#314278 - 08/26/19 09:37 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: rporter314]
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What happens when automation puts huge chunks of people out of work? Think out of the box ...


Well, capitalist to capitalist, that solves the problem entirely. We no longer have to worry about whether they're healthy enough to get to work. Let's's just cut our taxes so the government has more revenue to spend on war materials.
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#314285 - 08/27/19 04:13 AM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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But then we have to spend the money to go collect and bury the bodies of the starved losers in the capitalist contest, or else we winners get cholera and such.

I know, we can make robots that do that. Of course, eventually they will collect and incinerate the very last human body on Earth and we will have achieved a perfect capitalist society, in which only the winners (AIs) will participate.

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#314297 - 08/27/19 11:50 AM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Yo, Hatrack! Now that you are back, how's about tendering an opinion on externalization?

Externalization? Until you brought this BS line of thinking I have never externalized anything. It is like deconstructing something another method of obfuscating what is being discussed.

Let’s put that to a test. As a Classical Liberal, do you believe that free markets will always produce the best results, without the need for regulations to correct for collateral damage? For example, I’m thinking of the Berkeley Pit in Butte, Montana. Did the mining company that created, and profited from, this environmental disaster ever pay to fix the problems it caused, or did it externalize the cost?

Thousands of snow geese die in toxic lake
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#314299 - 08/27/19 03:25 PM Re: The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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But then we have to spend the money to go collect and bury the bodies of the starved losers in the capitalist contest

They can do it themselves, we'll fly to the Azores until the stench dies down.
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