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#314182 - 08/25/19 09:37 PM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: itstarted]
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I don't get it. Looks like China is just catching up to the rest of the world....
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#314184 - 08/25/19 09:42 PM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: Greger]
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So... Greger... did you really read the article in the link? If you really did... nice 15 word summary...

See ya!... smile
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#314185 - 08/25/19 09:52 PM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: itstarted]
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Sorry I have to leave you guys... Used to like the discussions, but something more than a few words. I could get that on facebook or twitter. On most of the sites, that I frequent, only the folks who are interested in the subject being discussed, post, and in most when they do, it's because it holds some interest for them.

I seriously doubt that most who posted opinion on this subject, really read the cited links. That's okay but I need a little more comeback to consider a few quick opinions to be a discussion on a given subject.

Thanks Jefferey...for the kind words, and the warm welcome. Sorry it didn't work out
Good luck.
Regards,
bob


Edited by itstarted (08/25/19 09:59 PM)
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#314197 - 08/25/19 11:37 PM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: itstarted]
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Originally Posted By: itstarted
Sorry I have to leave you guys... Used to like the discussions, but something more than a few words. I could get that on facebook or twitter. On most of the sites, that I frequent, only the folks who are interested in the subject being discussed, post, and in most when they do, it's because it holds some interest for them.

I seriously doubt that most who posted opinion on this subject, really read the cited links. That's okay but I need a little more comeback to consider a few quick opinions to be a discussion on a given subject.

Thanks Jefferey...for the kind words, and the warm welcome. Sorry it didn't work out
Good luck.
Regards,
bob


I hope you'll reconsider.
Seems to me that it would be frighteningly easy to install a similar social credit system here, if only because the three major credit bureaus would bankroll most of it if they could graft it onto the credit rating machinery they already have in place now.

From financial credit to social credit, maybe not as large a leap as one might think.
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#314431 - 08/29/19 01:07 AM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I did read the article, or most of it. I just didn't understand the Social Credit System and hoped for some clarity...

Sorry it's.
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#314435 - 08/29/19 01:26 AM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I don't get it. Looks like China is just catching up to the rest of the world....

I just read about it for the first today. The articles I read today are relation to Costco opening and Shanghai Disney opening this June 2019.

From what i gather, it's meant to shame people into behaving better.

I did not know this thread existed until today. gobsmacked

Hmm
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#314459 - 08/29/19 03:33 PM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: pdx rick]
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I thought that had something to do with it but the article cited above went on and on about credit/debit cards of some sort for making purchases, simply some modernization.

But perhaps modernization what it's really about....

Quote:
The phrase to "save face" has been around a long time. It's been part of English vernacular since the 19th century. The concept is a core social value in Asian cultures, among others. The meaning has remained stable across time. Saving Face signifies a desire -- or defines a strategy -- to avoid humiliation or embarrassment, to maintain dignity or preserve reputation.


In a modern society spinning seemingly out of control some "core social values" are being lost. Is the social credit system a means to artificially maintain them? While it seems a bit barbaric and weird as hell, it just might work in China.

I wouldn't try exporting it to western nations though.
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#314466 - 08/30/19 12:30 AM Re: The Social Credit System [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger


I wouldn't try exporting it to western nations though.


That doesn't mean someone won't try. They WILL try very hard.
And all they have to do over here is diddle the software currently used by the three major financial credit bureaus. Just expand it a little to include desirable and undesirable behavior.
It can be adjusted around election time, too!

Didn't vote for Trump for his third term? Well there goes any chance of you ever getting a decent job or purchasing a decent home!
We wouldn't want libruls doing that, would we?

What can stop the credit bureaus? Is there a law or are there laws that restrict what goes into their credit scores?
How strong are such laws?
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