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#314257 - 08/26/19 06:37 PM Climate Migration
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Registered: 05/22/06
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Loc: Port Angeles, WA
Everytime I see something on TV about our southern border I keep reminding myself I should post something about this one. What is going on, right now, is just a drop in the bucket of what is in store in coming years!

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...to-be-a-crisis/
https://www.carbonbrief.org/expect-tens-...says-world-bank
https://www.nrdc.org/onearth/climate-change-already-driving-mass-migration-around-globe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_migrant

if you google "climate migration" you will get something in excess of 125 million responses. The nations representing the current folks on our southern border have been in drought for something like 3 years so far (Honduras, Nickeragua, etc)

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#314264 - 08/26/19 08:26 PM Re: Climate Migration [Re: jgw]
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Registered: 11/24/06
Posts: 15312
Loc: Florida
We bumped up against this in the Global Warming thread but it does deserve some attention.

It's become pretty obvious that refugees of any sort, aren't welcome anywhere, at any time, for any reason, never have been and never will be. Oakies were scorned in California when the Dust Bowl drove them from their homes...our fellow Americans...scorned.

Fortunately scientists realized that farming techniques needed to change to prevent future occurrences of dust bowl conditions.
YAY SCIENCE!

But it didn't do those poor climate migrants any good at the time.
Factory farms now inhabit that land, strip mining it for wheat and barley and corn. Contributing to an even bigger climate disaster to come. Scientists will fix it just like they always do then Democrats will straighten out the economy and in a century we'll all sit around laughing about this.

Those migrants are f***ked though.
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#314287 - 08/27/19 04:39 AM Re: Climate Migration [Re: jgw]
pondering_it_all Offline
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Not if all us prosperous folks can hire them as maids, gardeners, and elder care workers. My mom is in an assisted living facility and even though she is about as racist as Great Depression Indiana can make somebody, she loves her "girls" who come and get her into the bathroom.

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#314302 - 08/27/19 03:38 PM Re: Climate Migration [Re: pondering_it_all]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Not if all us prosperous folks can hire them as maids, gardeners, and elder care workers. My mom is in an assisted living facility and even though she is about as racist as Great Depression Indiana can make somebody, she loves her "girls" who come and get her into the bathroom.


LOL OMG I know what you mean, no one is listening and granny makes off color comments about "those people" but when "their girls" arrive, those "girls" are "the good ones", right?
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#314305 - 08/27/19 04:06 PM Re: Climate Migration [Re: jgw]
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It always comes down to, "but what do I get out of it?" Right?

Climate migration is already a staple of American society. Snow birds? What we are in for is a permanent change for the next decades and century. Vast swathes of the globe will become uninhabitable wastelands. Indonesia moving capital (CNN). Water shortages are already becoming pervasive in some regions, and will get worse. 10 Cities Most At Risk of Running Out of Water (US News). Humanity requires acceptance of migrants, but who is humane anymore? I'm too old for the coming wars, but my children aren't.

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