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#314759 - 09/03/19 10:22 PM Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped
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He was gay when he received counseling from a therapist who assured him he could overcome his same-sex attractions.

He was gay when he married a woman and founded what would become one of the nationís most expansive conversion therapy ministries.

He was gay when thousands of people just like him sought his organizationís counsel, all with the goal of erasing the part of themselves Game and his associates preached would send them to hell.

For two decades, he led Hope for Wholeness, a faith-based conversion therapy program in South Carolinaís Upstate. Conversion therapy is a discredited practice intended to suppress or eradicate a personís LGBTQ identity through counseling or ministry.

But the groupís board of directors abruptly fired Game in November 2017.

In June, Game publicly announced he was gay and severed his ties with the organization.

Post and Courier - South Carolina

The Lady doth protest too much. smile

Every single time some guy protests gays, gayness, gay sex - he's a closet case.

Hmm
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#314760 - 09/03/19 10:47 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: pdx rick]
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It always ends the same way: being gay wasn't the illness, being a nut job Conservative was. smile
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#314761 - 09/03/19 11:05 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: pdx rick]
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I just read this! I'm shocked, shocked, that being gay was going on...
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#314762 - 09/03/19 11:15 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I just read this! I'm shocked, shocked, that being gay was going on...

I'm sick-to-death of closeted Conservatives wrecking normal healthy gay people's lives because said Conservatives can't handle being gay themselves. mad

Ted Haggard anyone? Hmm
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#314770 - 09/04/19 01:07 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: pdx rick]
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The people who try to "convert" gays to being straight are not conservatives. They are Bible thumping charlatans. They are people who believe in a collection of myths that were written thousands of years ago. While those people might work for and support conservative politicians and causes they are not conservatives, classical liberals, because they do not believe in the First Amendment. A person's sexual orientation is their business!
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#314771 - 09/04/19 01:11 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
The people who try to "convert" gays to being straight are not conservatives. They are Bible thumping charlatans. They are people who believe in a collection of myths that were written thousands of years ago. While those people might work for and support conservative politicians and causes they are not conservatives, classical liberals, because they do not believe in the First Amendment. A person's sexual orientation is their business!


They ID as such, they vote as such and they rant and rave AGAINST liberals, so despite your NO TRUE SCOTSMAN attempts, yep...they're conservatives.

And after putting up with weeks and weeks of your constant red-baiting, perhaps now you might understand how it feels.
But the difference is, NOBODY I know on the Left, here on the Rant or in real life, walks around mumbling about the glory of Karl Marx.

The difference is, these gay conversion folks, ALL THEY EVER DO is talk about being conservative.
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#314775 - 09/04/19 01:19 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
They ID as such, they vote as such and they rant and rave AGAINST liberals, so despite your NO TRUE SCOTSMAN attempts, yep...they're conservatives.

And after putting up with weeks and weeks of your constant red-baiting, perhaps now you might understand how it feels.
But the difference is, NOBODY I know on the Left, here on the Rant or in real life, walks around mumbling about the glory of Karl Marx.

The difference is, these gay conversion folks, ALL THEY EVER DO is talk about being conservative.

Wow. I appreciate the support Jeffery. I've never seen one of your posts be so direct and pointedly laser-focused while cutting like a knife.

Thank you. smile
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#314776 - 09/04/19 01:23 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
They ID as such, they vote as such and they rant and rave AGAINST liberals, so despite your NO TRUE SCOTSMAN attempts, yep...they're conservatives.

And after putting up with weeks and weeks of your constant red-baiting, perhaps now you might understand how it feels.
But the difference is, NOBODY I know on the Left, here on the Rant or in real life, walks around mumbling about the glory of Karl Marx.

The difference is, these gay conversion folks, ALL THEY EVER DO is talk about being conservative.

Wow. I appreciate the support Jeffery. I've never seen one of your posts be so direct and pointedly laser-focused while cutting like a knife.

Thank you. smile


Oh come on, Rick.
For forty years I was a DP and a film editor.
You probably realize that almost a third of that entire industry is gay. Just because I am not oriented that way doesn't mean I am not a supporter.
Listen to the Leon Russell/Marc Benno song "Straight Brother".

I've always been one of the straight brothers smile

PS: Didn't someone do an amusing song about Uncle Ted called "Meth and Man-Ass?"
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#314779 - 09/04/19 01:29 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
PS: Didn't someone do an amusing song about Uncle Ted called "Meth and Man-Ass?"

Not sure. Mebbe. Ted was so 2005, 06, 07 anyway. Hmm
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#314780 - 09/04/19 01:31 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
The people who try to "convert" gays to being straight are not conservatives. They are Bible thumping charlatans. They are people who believe in a collection of myths that were written thousands of years ago. While those people might work for and support conservative politicians and causes they are not conservatives, classical liberals, because they do not believe in the First Amendment. A person's sexual orientation is their business!


They ID as such, they vote as such and they rant and rave AGAINST liberals, so despite your NO TRUE SCOTSMAN attempts, yep...they're conservatives.

And after putting up with weeks and weeks of your constant red-baiting, perhaps now you might understand how it feels.
But the difference is, NOBODY I know on the Left, here on the Rant or in real life, walks around mumbling about the glory of Karl Marx.

The difference is, these gay conversion folks, ALL THEY EVER DO is talk about being conservative.
No, they are not. Again you ignored what I wrote. You ignored that true conservatives are classical liberals, people who put the First Amendment before their religion.

The only person who felt he was being "red baited" was you Jeffery. That you felt I was "red baiting" you with my comments is your problem not mine.

There are two reasons people on they left, on the Rant, or in real life don't walk around mumbling about Karl Marx.
1) They don't know who Marx was.
2) They don't know what he wrote.
You can't mumble about something you don't know about.
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