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#314815 - 09/04/19 04:59 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: pdx rick]
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Someday pdx rick could you respond to what I wrote?

Pretty sure that I did. smile

You did? When was that?
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#314816 - 09/04/19 05:01 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: pdx rick]
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...you must be paranoid about Trump because you can't stop talking about him.

I GUARANTEE Trump will not be re-elected. Trump lost educated suburban women and that is why there was a #BlueWave in 2018.

It was fluke that Trump even won in the first place - not even he believed it.

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That's not a guarantee I'd take to the bank.
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#314823 - 09/04/19 04:42 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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That's not a guarantee I'd take to the bank.


me neither. It sounds like Rick has completely bought into my line of propaganda. I "think" Trump will lose. But I "thought" he would lose in 2016 too.

But Trump hasn't advanced either of our agendas. By the way, I think yours is admirable but, given the times, I think mine is more applicable.
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#314824 - 09/04/19 04:59 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
My "appeal to purity" is because I want people like those Bible thumpers out of conservatism. They preach hate and divisiveness and doing that destroys conservatism. The conservatism I want to see grow and prosper is one that is inclusive. A conservtism that seeks to help people be free to live their lives as they chose to. Not according to some ancient myths.


Our goals are very similar. What's the plan to raise people out of poverty so they can be free to live their lives as they choose?

A very old plan and one that is almost always successful, work. Having a job is best way for people to get of poverty. It isn't 100% successful but it is still the most effective of getting people out of poverty.


Work will set you free! I think the gates of Auschwitz bore this slogan.
At $7.25 an hour you are not free to live your life as you choose. Unemployment is at record lows yet the ranks of the poor are growing. Your theory might work on paper but government has sided with the employers so many times that there's little left for the workers.
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#314826 - 09/04/19 05:15 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Originally Posted By: Greger
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
My "appeal to purity" is because I want people like those Bible thumpers out of conservatism. They preach hate and divisiveness and doing that destroys conservatism. The conservatism I want to see grow and prosper is one that is inclusive. A conservtism that seeks to help people be free to live their lives as they chose to. Not according to some ancient myths.


Our goals are very similar. What's the plan to raise people out of poverty so they can be free to live their lives as they choose?

A very old plan and one that is almost always successful, work. Having a job is best way for people to get of poverty. It isn't 100% successful but it is still the most effective of getting people out of poverty.


Work will set you free! I think the gates of Auschwitz bore this slogan.
At $7.25 an hour you are not free to live your life as you choose. Unemployment is at record lows yet the ranks of the poor are growing. Your theory might work on paper but government has sided with the employers so many times that there's little left for the workers.

The slogan "Arbeit mach frei" was put up on concentration camp built and run by a government. When governments interfere in the private sector the results are recession, which with too much government interference can cause a depression, and unemployment. When there is as little government interference as possible in the private sector prosperity is the result.
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#314839 - 09/04/19 10:13 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Just a few rules, Senator, with minimal interference. No game comes without a list of rules.

The forum rules say we are way off topic.

Since it has become apparent that gay conversion therapy doesn't work can we also assume that gays are not converting your children to homosexuality?
Just a random rhetorical question to get the conversation back on track...
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#314850 - 09/04/19 11:51 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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I want people like those Bible thumpers out of conservatism. They preach hate and divisiveness and doing that destroys conservatism. The conservatism I want to see grow and prosper is one that is inclusive.


You should be careful, Senator: Such talk is going to get you drummed out of conservative circles! Those Bible Thumpers are an important part of the Republican coalition. Without them, Republicans would win exactly zero elections, ever. That "inclusive" thing is highly suspect now, too. Just look at Charlottesville.

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#314858 - 09/05/19 05:02 AM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Greger]
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Just a few rules, Senator, with minimal interference. No game comes without a list of rules.

The forum rules say we are way off topic.

Since it has become apparent that gay conversion therapy doesn't work can we also assume that gays are not converting your children to homosexuality?
Just a random rhetorical question to get the conversation back on track...

A person cannot be converted from being gay nor can they be converted to be gay. Either you are or you aren't.
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#314930 - 09/05/19 11:01 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Actually, it's a little more complicated, like everything we Great Apes do: Some small percentage of people seem to be born bisexual. They are attracted to both sexes. But those people can have exclusively hetero or homosexual relationships, which adds to the confusion around "conversion".

Or there's even the more realistic argument that we are all a little bit bisexual: I'm straight as an arrow, and have never had any sort of relationship with another man, not because of any dislike for gay people. Some of my best friends and relatives are gay or lesbian. But when I see an early Brad Pitt movie, I think: Hmmmmm, maybe I could be with the right guy.

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#314937 - 09/05/19 11:27 PM Re: Conversion therapy leader for 2 decades, McKrae Game disavows movement he helped [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Brad Pitt is MINE, you filthy pervert!!!!

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