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#319590 - 01/02/20 09:57 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Biden has been the "perceived front runner" only because he seems "safe" to a fairly significant portion of timid voters who fear change.


"Let's go back to how everything was in 2008" is not a very inspiring campaign theme for Democrats, although when you think about it a bit that would be great. At least compared to four more years of Trump.

If Biden wants to win, he has to unite everybody left of Trump by asking a progressive to be his VP. If a progressive wants to win, they need to ask a centrist to be their VP. This is no time to fly off in different directions, IE. the usual Democratic fiasco. First of all you need to WIN, and then you can enact your agenda. Lose and you can preach your agenda into the wind for the next four years. Unless you wind up in a concentration camp for insulting the King.

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#319591 - 01/02/20 10:02 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Here's a nice story, but beginning to sound like a broken record:

The Only Thing Republicans Now Stand For

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Republicans are now officially the character doesn’t count party, the personal responsibility just proves you have failed to blame the other guy party, the deficit doesn’t matter party, the Russia is our ally party, and the I’m-right-and-you-are-human-scum party

Stuart Stevens, a top Republican Party strategist in the 2012 election


He's working for Weld to try running against Trump in primaries.

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#319592 - 01/02/20 10:03 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
[quote=Hamish Howl]
But that's also the reason I know she will never have a snowflake's chance in a cyclotron. The problem is, she's just another interference factor, and fully open to manipulation.



If I wanted to interfere in an election and get away with it, I would simply cause as much uncertainty as I could.

If I wanted to damage that country, I would interfere on alternating sides and get "caught" with just enough plausible deniability to prevent the country's factions from uniting against me.

Then I would just sit back and watch the place tear itself apart in a frenzy of category errors, paranoia, and stern damage.
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#319593 - 01/02/20 10:06 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Exactly what Putin has done. Sad that his dupes can't see that.

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#319601 - 01/02/20 10:51 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Exactly what Putin has done. Sad that his dupes can't see that.


Well, yeah. Putin is basically a James Bond villain, and can be considered an outside context event.
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#319605 - 01/03/20 12:19 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Sanders leads in:

Money raised
Number of individual contributions
Number of volunteers
Numbers of voters who’ve ‘made up their minds’
Crowd sizes
Voter trust

Just sayin

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#319606 - 01/03/20 12:38 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Sanders leads in:

Money raised
Number of individual contributions
Number of volunteers
Numbers of voters who’ve ‘made up their minds’
Crowd sizes
Voter trust

Just sayin



Unbelievable.
I can talk about how pleased I am to see Sanders getting more respect and tying with Biden, and with you, it's as if I just posted MAGA.
Oh well, at least you are consistent! ROTFMOL

Yeah, ICYMI, I just finished posting about how Sanders is getting better media recognition. I could add that party heads are beginning to apparently grasp the realization that their best fortunes may lie with him.
But it doesn't matter... LOL because you'll just keep making this about me and my...what's the slur you use for liberals now?

It's like you have one of those new VR filters on.
I could post a pic of me and the wifey wearing Bernie shirts and you'd see "Trump-Pence 2020" instead.

Wow, just wow.
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#319607 - 01/03/20 02:11 AM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
chunkstyle Offline
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Settle down Jeff.

Just making a general point that Sanders may not be leading in the polls at number one but he’s leading in other metrics.
My guess is you started the thread initially so it appears as though I’m responding to you by posting in general.
I have no opinion about your recent posts. I’m not all that interested.

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#319617 - 01/03/20 01:53 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Sanders leads in:

Money raised
Number of individual contributions
Number of volunteers
Numbers of voters who’ve ‘made up their minds’
Crowd sizes
Voter trust

Just sayin



None of that actually gets you the job, though. He had gigantic crowds last time around. So did Sarah Palin (used here for this specific comparison only).
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#319618 - 01/03/20 03:15 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Hamish Howl]
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What gets you the job is primary voters. Sanders' campaign machine has always been about primary voters. Biden is just so awful and voters want change...a couple of metrics that are also working in Bernie's favor.
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