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#314448 - 08/29/19 04:55 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Senator Hatrack]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision. A better written decision would have made it more difficult to overturn it. If the Supreme Court does decide to reconsider Roe v. Wade it might deliver a better written decision that keeps abortion legal. For the record my position on abortion is that it is a decision for a woman to make. The only time I have a voice in that decision is I am the father. At my age that is highly unlikely to happen.


Yes, it might deliver a better written decision that keeps it legal.
Or not. But the one thing that will not happen if Roe is overturned, is cessation of abortions. That is guaranteed to not ever happen.
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#314461 - 08/29/19 04:37 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Quote:
the one thing that will not happen if Roe is overturned, is cessation of abortions.


Making things illegal or unavailable legally doesn't make them go away. Nobody on this planet thinks abortion is a good thing, but only a fool would think you could stop them.

The very same people who have made an unwanted pregnancy into a life destroying ordeal(Christians, Republicans, and other fanatics) are the ones who want to turn abortion into a life destroying ordeal instead of a simple medical procedure.

Perhaps it's too forward thinking, but maybe when there is an issue such as this it should be put to a vote, put on the ballot and settled.
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#314463 - 08/29/19 07:19 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I actually think the entire 'debate' is crazy. The right to lifers insist the pregancy comes to term. Then they cleverly walk away from everything as their job is done. I you travel in latin America you will notice that there are a LOT of abandoned children around. Goto Brazil and they beg at every outdoor table whilst you eat, etc. This is the result of the Catholic church doing its duty and making sure every child gets to term before they just abandon them.

My point is, basically, that what they are actually doing is making sure we have lots of unwanted children. There is some evidence that legal abortion has actually contributed to a lessening of crime. Seems that unwanted children have serious problems. I have often wondered what would happen if there was a law that any child produced that was unwanted was taken by the right to life folks which would support, love, feed and educate said unwanted child through college. I suspect I would have a slightly different thought about Right to Life folk. I also know they are certainly not going to do that as that would interfere with their important stuff.

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#314471 - 08/30/19 05:58 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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What would all the pedophiles and child pornographers do if there were no unwanted/abandoned children for them to prey on?

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#314476 - 08/30/19 08:47 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision.

The Conservative majority that wrote that decision in 1973 wrote a poorly written one? gobsmacked
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#314605 - 09/01/19 08:02 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision.

The Conservative majority that wrote that decision in 1973 wrote a poorly written one? gobsmacked
Just because the Burger Court was Conservative does not mean they were not human and incapable of making mistakes.
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#314611 - 09/01/19 08:12 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
One of the reasons Roe v. Wade is on shaky ground is that it was a poorly written decision.

The Conservative majority that wrote that decision in 1973 wrote a poorly written one? gobsmacked
Just because the Burger Court was Conservative does not mean they were not human and incapable of making mistakes.

You wrote it, not me. smile
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#314936 - 09/05/19 11:25 PM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: pdx rick]
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Everyone makes mistakes. I only make one a day, when I get out of bed.
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#315075 - 09/08/19 06:12 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Conservative because you QUESTION authority...??

More like you crave an authoritarian above you, as a Conservative...

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#315076 - 09/08/19 10:21 AM Re: Roe v. Wade Is Under Immediate Threat [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Well hello Snarky_Politics, welcome to the rant.
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