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#315350 - 09/14/19 09:40 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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supporters of authoritarian governments don't like it when someone argues with them.

They certainly don't! The US Government is and has been an authoritarian government for a long time. We have the largest prison population in the history of the world.
Workers are paid a pittance and all benefits denied.
Our infrastructure is crumbling
Our water and air polluted
Deficit spending just topped a $Trillion Bucks
Wartime industries are booming even though it is a time of peace.
Workers are in debt up to their asses
Farmers are committing suicide
We have homeless beggers in our streets "alms for the poor? Alms for the poor."
And jackbooted thugs trample through them seeking the ones with brown skin.
Yes, Senator, DemonRats do it too! But at least some of them recognize the problem.

You are either on the side of the oppressed or on the side of the oppressor. There is no neutral ground.

Greger, considering how your comments about the Republican Party are not true anything else you have to say is questionable if not completely wrong.
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#315351 - 09/14/19 09:53 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Yeah, there's a few tokens in there. A few Herman Kane's and..uh..oh, that sleepy old black guy in the Supreme Court, I can't think of his name right now. Married to a white woman...who supports racist causes...LOL yeah.
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#315352 - 09/14/19 10:04 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Yeah, there's a few tokens in there. A few Herman Kane's and..uh..oh, that sleepy old black guy in the Supreme Court, I can't think of his name right now. Married to a white woman...who supports racist causes...LOL yeah.

Thank you for showing that what you know about the Republican Party is wrong. You don't know how much you don't know about the Republican Party.
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#315353 - 09/14/19 10:07 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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anything else you have to say is questionable if not completely wrong.


I'm sure that everything I say is questionable and I am often wrong. This is not a court of law, your honour, and I am not under oath. I write political opinions in reaction to political opinions that I read.

Isn't that what we do here?

I also play a "Predict The Future" game where I look into my Cracked Crystal Ball and make predictions.

Bloodbath.2020.DEM
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#315354 - 09/14/19 10:17 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Thank you for showing that what you know about the Republican Party is wrong. You don't know how much you don't know about the Republican Party.

Hyar's a Reepublickan:

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#315358 - 09/14/19 10:55 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
Does the Constitution specifically mention being the policeman of the world? Does it mention abortions? Does it mention nuclear weapons and other tools of mass destruction? Does it mention Capitalism and Free Markets?

At least healthcare fits nicely under "the General welfare".

That America has become the "policeman of the world" is not directly mentioned in our Constitution. However, Article I, Section 8, clause 12 it states that our government has the authority "To provide and maintain a Navy..." One of the first tasks of our Navy was to protect our trade in the Mediterranean Sea. In essence it was "policing" that body of water. Abortions? No, because there aren't any medical procedures mentioned in our Constitution. Nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction are necessary for our government to protect our country. Since the book that started Capitalism, The Wealth of Nations, was first published in 1776 we still had a mercantile economy. Capitalism became our economic system due to the fact that the resources for a Capitalist economy were in abundance. And no, healthcare does not fit under the general Welfare clause.
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#315359 - 09/14/19 11:02 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Greger]
Senator Hatrack Offline
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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anything else you have to say is questionable if not completely wrong.


I'm sure that everything I say is questionable and I am often wrong. This is not a court of law, your honour, and I am not under oath. I write political opinions in reaction to political opinions that I read.

Isn't that what we do here?

I also play a "Predict The Future" game where I look into my Cracked Crystal Ball and make predictions.

Bloodbath.2020.DEM

Judging from your "opinions" about Republicans you were probably convinced that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016. Your prediction of a bloodbath in 2020 with the Democrats as the winners is possibly as accurate as the belief that a Clinton victory was.
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#315360 - 09/14/19 11:25 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
That America has become the "policeman of the world" is not directly mentioned in our Constitution. However, Article I, Section 8, clause 12 it states that our government has the authority "To provide and maintain a Navy..." One of the first tasks of our Navy was to protect our trade in the Mediterranean Sea. In essence it was "policing" that body of water. Abortions? No, because there aren't any medical procedures mentioned in our Constitution. Nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction are necessary for our government to protect our country. Since the book that started Capitalism, The Wealth of Nations, was first published in 1776 we still had a mercantile economy. Capitalism became our economic system due to the fact that the resources for a Capitalist economy were in abundance. And no, healthcare does not fit under the general Welfare clause.

Wonderful! We strongly agree that there is a lot going on today that the Constitution did not address. I am curious, though, as to why the health of Americans is not a subject of the general welfare. Seems like purt'near a definitional situation.
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#315361 - 09/14/19 11:36 PM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: logtroll]
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You don't know how much you don't know about the Republican Party.


Apparently you don't either, Senator. It just is what it is, I won't hold it against you. What you think the Republican Party is and what I think the Republican Party is....well, let's just say we're never gonna agree.
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#315366 - 09/15/19 03:58 AM Re: Where have all the conservatives gone? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
You don't know how much you don't know about the Republican Party.


Originally Posted By: Greger
Apparently you don't either, Senator. It just is what it is, I won't hold it against you. What you think the Republican Party is and what I think the Republican Party is....well, let's just say we're never gonna agree.
As someone who has been a member of the Republican Party for over 50 years, and whose family has been members of the party since 1910, my knowledge of it is better than someone who has never been a member of it. Also I was a Republican endorsed candidate for the MN Legislature three times. Have you ever been an endorsed candidate for any office, by any political party, Greger? You have your opinions while I have over a century's worth of experience to back up what I say about the Republican Party.
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