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#315283 - 09/13/19 01:55 PM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
Does anyone recall Mr Trump accusing the Democrat Party of rigging the primaries?



Yes. He's a New York City property developer. He knows a rip off when he see's one.

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#315287 - 09/13/19 02:36 PM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
So Hills and Liz are really the same person? With the same flaws, the same records and the same dreary future if either were elected...

What has Sanders got that will win the nomination for him? He better pull it out of his pocket pretty soon now.

I feel like Biden and Clinton are much more similar, but I'd take Clinton in a heartbeat over that old hairspray sniffer.


Hills and Liz have much the same constituency, Have had the same political trajectories, though timed differently and are from the same class. O.K., Hillary got wonderfully rich going in to politics so economically they are differences but they like to identify with the white collar class.

Warren is now talking 'access' to healthcare so she appears to be signaling?. Dunno how her commitment to medicare for all to Sanders will fare after the primaries. We'll see.

Warren has that lanyard nerdiness. She's got them up to the date truth bombs on her web site with round the clock updates and revisions to help you with the truth...
Reminds me of Clintons approach during her debacle of a run. When has fact checking been a substitute for politics? NERD!!!

I doubt she would take bribes from Goldman in the same way that Clinton did, Warren would creat the case for it's continued existence, with some stronger worded, larger printed, italicised type font on the board game lid.

Now there's rumors she's even in consult with the crater maker. Why, after you tried distancing yourself from Clinton in the start of your campaign, would you be consulting the author of the parties 2016 presidential cratering? ( I know, I know, won by 3 million votes, Russians!, Sander supporters, etc...)

I prefer Sanders for his steady consistency over the decades to Warrens bio, but if it can't be Sanders, Warren will be a Hillaryesque consolation.

I also don't think she's enough of a politician to beat Trump.


Edited by chunkstyle (09/13/19 02:38 PM)

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#315304 - 09/13/19 05:01 PM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: chunkstyle]
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As I've said before...I'd love it if Bernie won the nomination. But he won't, and you know it as well as I do. No need to be bitter, it's just politics.

Warren probably won't either so you might as well not get your Hillary Hackles all up over her. She'll go back to the Senate and practice her Third Way Plan to enrich corporate interests at the expense of workers everywhere and after this run for president her speaking fees will soar to Clintonesque levels and she will become the darling of the speaking circuit. She'll likely run again in 2024 with the blessings of the DNC just like Hillary too.

Most likely Joe Biden will win and be our next President. I'd rather keep trump, let him burn this motherf*cker to the ground, and re-address the issue in 2024.
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#315305 - 09/13/19 05:03 PM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle

I prefer Sanders for his steady consistency over the decades to Warrens bio, but if it can't be Sanders, Warren will be a Hillaryesque consolation.

I also don't think she's enough of a politician to beat Trump.


Coming from you, I count that in the same category as P.J. O'Rourke's reluctant and stammering endorsement of Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Have you ever read either of his published endorsements?
They will make you laugh. ROTFMOL

"I'm endorsing Hillary Clinton - the devil we know"

Quote:
Donald Trump is a flying monkey.
Except what the flying monkeys have to say, “oreoreoreo,” makes more sense than Trump’s policy statements.
Not that Hillary makes much sense either.

Hillary is wrong about everything. She is to politics and statecraft what Pope Urban VIII and the Inquisition were to Galileo. She thinks the sun revolves around herself.
But Trump Earth™ is flat. We’ll sail over the edge. Here be monsters.



Conservative Author P.J. O'Rourke Reluctantly Backs Clinton

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"This man just can't be president," O'Rourke said, alluding to the nuclear codes the commander-in-chief takes control of upon assuming office. "They've got this button — this briefcase. He's going to find it."
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#315426 - 09/15/19 11:32 PM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I did when he wrote it. I've always thought of O'Rourke as the funny guy at the fraternity.

I was more of a Thompson fan but I have to admit O'rourke can be funny when he's not being ridiculous.

Didn't he start out at the National Lampoon. Hafta go to wikipedia next..


Edited by chunkstyle (09/15/19 11:35 PM)

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#315427 - 09/15/19 11:52 PM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Side note,

Both Thompson and O'Rourke covered Hillary's husband's campaign and were present for a sit down in Little Rock to interview Bill for Rolling Stone. Hunter went on to later rue the day for supporting Dollar Bill and saw him as the road to fascism. I think he was still thinking the Democratic party was an oppositional force to the right wing grift. I don't think he expected the administration to join the rip off.

O'Rourke on the other hand....


Edited by chunkstyle (09/15/19 11:53 PM)

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#315496 - 09/17/19 04:58 AM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: chunkstyle]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
I did when he wrote it. I've always thought of O'Rourke as the funny guy at the fraternity.

I was more of a Thompson fan but I have to admit O'rourke can be funny when he's not being ridiculous.

Didn't he start out at the National Lampoon. Hafta go to wikipedia next..


Yes he did and up until 1994 I had most, if not all, of his NatLampCo work. Destroyed in seconds by a busted water pipe in the quake.
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#315911 - 09/26/19 11:08 AM Re: Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Woke up this AM and in my inbox was a copy of Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball Report. the Subject: "2020 Primary and Caucus Cancellations Through the Lens of Recent History."

Two things he pointed out concerning cancellations of primaries.
1. Some states have laws on their books that when there is only one candidate on the ballot, the primary is automatically cancelled.

2. The recent history of primary cancellations. You can see the list scrolling down to it.

2004 - G.W. Bush - Republicans cancelled 19 GOP presidential primaries for the reasons given.

2012 - Obama - Democrats cancelled 13 Democratic presidential primaries for the reasons given.

2020 - Trump - Republicans so far have cancelled 6 GOP presidential primaries for reason given.

http://crystalball.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/

My state of Georgia is one of those states who have a law that if only one candidate is on the ballot, the presidential primary is cancelled. Georgia, one of the states that participate in the Super Tuesday primaries so far will hold only the Democratic Presidential Primary on that day. The Republican presidential primary will be held only if another GOP presidential candidate gets on the ballot to oppose Trump.
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