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#316764 - 10/16/19 02:36 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Those of you who want and strongly support the impeachment of President Trump are ignoring some very important facts about why he won.

i don't give a rat's as whether he's impeached or not. And I know exactly why he won. Republicans love authoritarian asshO*es.

The bigger the asshO*e the more they love them. And Trump is the biggest of them all.


Edited by Greger (10/16/19 02:37 AM)
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#316765 - 10/16/19 02:42 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Mayor Pete 10/15/19:

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Donald Trump came within cheating distance in 2016 and won.


Good Senator, what has Donald Trump done exactly to address the issues in the midwest which caused him to "win?"

Hmm
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#316768 - 10/16/19 02:55 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Why Trump won cannot be understood if looked at from a partisan perspective.
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#316770 - 10/16/19 02:57 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Why Trump won cannot be understood if looked at from a partisan perspective.

Try me. smile

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#316773 - 10/16/19 03:38 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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LOL

The reality is, if the Senate does convict the current occupant of the WH, they will certainly not convict the VP for the obvious reason you stated. VP Pence could shoot people on the Senate floor and they would not convict. How's that for party loyalty!!!!


VP Pence ... let the corruption begin.
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#316774 - 10/16/19 03:49 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Why Trump won cannot be understood if looked at from a partisan perspective.

Let me point out the obvious.

Since you are partisan, who has no other perspective than partisan, you cannot understand why he won.

I'll ask again ... do you read what you type????
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#316776 - 10/16/19 04:11 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
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Why Trump won cannot be understood if looked at from a partisan perspective.

Let me point out the obvious.

Since you are partisan, who has no other perspective than partisan, you cannot understand why he won.

I'll ask again ... do you read what you type????
Yes, I am partisan, very partisan. It is because I am looking at this from a non-partisan perspective that I understand why Trump won. And no I never read what I type. I proofread it by osmosis.
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#316783 - 10/16/19 10:57 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats


Warren fits that bill, so does Bernie. But they're too far to the left for you. So that's not really what you want. If Biden is as far to the left as you can stand then you might as well just vote Republican or sit home.


I like folks more or less in the center, center right or center left. Not the fringes. I think it's funny how those on the outer fringes think they're mainstream and its everyone else that is out of kilter. This goes for both the left and right.

If you think Warren and Sanders are mainstream, in the center political ideological wise, well...
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#316786 - 10/16/19 11:56 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Yes, I am partisan, very partisan. It is because I am looking at this from a non-partisan perspective that I understand why Trump won. And no I never read what I type. I proofread it by osmosis.

How is it that a very partisan person can look at something from a non-partisan perspective? Let me refresh one and all on the definition of partisan: one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance.
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#316787 - 10/16/19 12:53 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: perotista]
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If you think Warren and Sanders are mainstream, in the center political ideological wise, well...


Mainstream? You mean more of exactly what we've had for the last 40 years? Mainstream is what got us where we are and mainstream is what will keep us here. As near as I can tell you are perfectly satisfied with government and don't want to change a single thing about it.

No, they are not mainstream and that's exactly why we need them. Mainstream has gotten us into an oligarchy. Mainstream has brought us near fascism, it has brought us a filthy polluted planet, it has brought us global climate change, it has brought us income inequality not seen since the Gilded Age. Mainstream just shot a woman in her home in Fort Worth. Mainstream has failed utterly to deliver the American Dream to any but the wealthy.

I'm kind of over this mainstream crap. I'm long since done with Centrism and centrists kicking cans down the road and never accomplishing anything. I'm not a fringe leftist. I'm not a socialist.
I'm just an old man who is sick and tired of a government as impotent as myself, a useless entity that funnels money to the wealthy and f***s everybody else square in the arse.

Why are you so afraid of change? Does a 2% tax on wealth over $50Million threaten you somehow? Do you feel sorry for the poor billionaires? Or do you stand on Constitutional principles that insist all taxation is theft? But theft from the working class by the oligarchs is perfectly okay? Mainstream has stolen the lives of millions of working Americans. Mainstream has destroyed families. Mainstream has driven everyone so far into debt that they'll never see the light of day.

It's not the right nor the left who have delivered us into this nightmare. It's the Center and their overarching need to just leave things alone and let them take care of themselves. To propose half assed measures that never seem to accomplish anything. Bold action is needed and centrists will never ever deliver it.

**I haven't even had my coffee yet!**

No offense intended, Pero, nothing personal, just enjoying an early morning rant.
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