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#315740 - 09/22/19 05:53 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Not only was the $250m in Taxpayer money being extorted, but Donald J Trump wanted the Ukraine President to say that the blood money for Paul Manafort was part of a Deep State campaign led by Hillary Clinton.

So it was two things.

Hmm
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#315742 - 09/22/19 06:38 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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From May 2019, hiding in plain sight in Guiliani's own words:

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“We’re not meddling in an election; we’re meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do,” and “There’s nothing illegal about it. Somebody could say it’s improper,” and “I’m going to give [Ukraine] reasons why they shouldn’t stop [the investigation] because that information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.”
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#315744 - 09/22/19 07:10 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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My conversation with the President of the Ukraine was respectful and pitch-perfect. No you can't see it.

Sounds like the words of an innocent stable genius to me. Hmm
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#315746 - 09/22/19 08:11 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Nancy Pelosi warns that the Trump Administration "Will Be Entering a Grave New Chapter of Lawlessness" if they don't comply with the new Ukraine investigation. So what? Nancy isn't going to do anything about it anyway. Hmm
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#315747 - 09/22/19 09:01 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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"My crimes cannot be investigated until I am out of office."

Trump admits he's committing crimes, he's just saying he's in the clear as long as he's in power! Trump is actually TEACHING the FOUNDING FATHERS where they went wrong!
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#315748 - 09/22/19 09:03 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Rick why is it so difficult for you guys to accept the possibility that Aunt Nancy doesn't want to give Trump any wiggle room? Maybe she wants impeachment to be GUARANTEED removal from office by the Senate.
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#315755 - 09/23/19 01:55 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Rick why is it so difficult for you guys to accept the possibility that Aunt Nancy doesn't want to give Trump any wiggle room? Maybe she wants impeachment to be GUARANTEED removal from office by the Senate.

Pretty sure this one is a slam-dunk. smile Plus there is an established pattern now. Hmm

Nancy Pelosi had better be prepared to shove her stiletto heel up Donald Trump's orange ass, this time. coffee
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#315760 - 09/23/19 04:56 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Rick why is it so difficult for you guys to accept the possibility that Aunt Nancy doesn't want to give Trump any wiggle room? Maybe she wants impeachment to be GUARANTEED removal from office by the Senate.

Pretty sure this one is a slam-dunk. smile


Not in the Senate it ain't. Not yet.

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Plus there is an established pattern now. Hmm

Nancy Pelosi had better be prepared to shove her stiletto heel up Donald Trump's orange ass, this time. coffee


Oh believe me, whether it's a stiletto heel or karma dry-drilling him with a cactus, it's coming.

I think Auntie Nancy just wants maximum bang for the buck, that's all.
Her own daughter says:

Quote:
"Nancy will cut your head off, and you won't even know you're bleeding."


And Nancy thinks it's a compliment, which I suppose it just might be.
I don't think she is fond of big splashy theatrics, I think she wants to come as a thief in the night. Then you get the big splashy theatrics.
See, she probably doesn't like to telegraph her moves in advance.
That's just dumb.
So right now I think for Nancy, impeachment is still off the table...until suddenly when it is on the table.



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#315787 - 09/24/19 08:11 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Donald Trump admitted at a UN presser today to withholding military aid to the Ukraine in exchange for "dirt" on Joe Biden.

Trump only thing cares about is that people hear is ‘Joe Biden and his son are corrupt.’ It doesn’t have to be true. Trump doesn’t have to prove it. He doesn’t have to provide evidence. All he cares about is sowing those seeds of distrust and doubt in the American electorate months before an election.

My response is this:

There’s a lot of talk about the fact that Trump molested a teen girl. I know nothing about it. I hear that he molested a teen girl. I’m sure that somebody will be looking at that.

Two can play THAT game. smile

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#315790 - 09/24/19 12:53 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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As long as Republicans hold the Senate, President Donald (...) Trump will never be convicted let alone tried or the charges even heard.


So Speaker Pelosi will:

Keep investigation(s) on going and public
Plan Articles of Impeachment for June
Pass them in early July
Pass them to the Senate in late July
Everybody goes home in August
The constituents express their opinion(s)
The senate will refuse to hear the articles in September, let alone a trial
Everybody goes home to run for office in October
We vote in November...

My current thoughts on this whole thing.
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